Spiderman movies suck

OK, this thread is so annoying: fact. Vin Deisel to play a part? Venom in Spidey 3? Punisher a BETTER movie? These are the ramblings of what I like to call fanboy-buffoonery. Vin Diesel is the choice of the uncultured IDIOT.

For such "true fans" to get on their high horses about how crap the Spider-Man movies are, and then suggest that having Venom in number 3 will somehow remedy that (non-existent) problem is beyond a joke.

Rambling on about "betraying" the character of Spider-Man? Oh and I suppose throwing Venom in number 3 won't betray his character either, right? Of course it will. Having ONE movie about Venom is retarded - and only serves to please the slobbering fanboys. Why? Because I've been through this a million times - Venom needs a long birth. Previous villains are created in an accident - Venom is nurtured over a long period to become a villain. If you were true Spidey fans you would realise that Venom is a stupid idea for Spidey 3. Have Eddie Brock and the Symbiote surely as the setup, but save the climax of the story for a later date and don't exhaust it early. So, seeing as there are only likely to be 3 films anyway, Venom looks even LESS likely. Besides, he's an alien - you'll all be crying anyway when Raimi changes that cartoony concept.

Venom = over-rated. "ooh he looks cool he is teh pwnage".

Venom is brilliant, he'd be good on-screen, but Venom needs a two-parter for the time he needs to come to fruition as a villain. The "ME WANTS TEH VENOM NOW HE IS TEH BEST!" Fanboys can go rot in their own sputum for all I care - THEY will end up ruining the character if they pressure Raimi into reluctantly using Venom as a quick-fix.
I cannot believe some people actually like The Punisher. The Punisher was the worst adaptation of a comic book character ever. Wolverine from the X-Men movies acted more like The Punisher than The Punisher.
These people have some monumentally stupid things floating in their heads. I could go on, and on, and on, but it's like talking to a brick wall.

yep because a true fan would be pissed about that moronic change.and for your information,sony will not allow Raimi to make the movie the way he wants to make it because in the june 2002 issue of wizard magazine he said he would love to include gwen stacy in a sequel,well there has been no sign that gwen is ever going to be in a sequel.all signs point that sony will not allow Raimi to make the movie the way he wants to because just like stan lee -who was against the organic change,there are indications that even though Raimi says he liked the idea of organics,he really doesnt,that he was just going along with whatever sony wanted.they are the producers so he has to go along with whatever they tell him they want in the movie.

Lets see,Raimi says he wants to have Gwen stacy in a sequel,all indications show she will never be in one,doesnt take a genius to see that he cant make the movie the way he wants to make it and has to do whatever sony tells him to do,except for casting people and a few other things of course.Im reminded now why I seldom ever venture into the spiderman section anymore.Because anytime someone comes on here and bashs these films they are greeted with childish remarks such as -lets see you make a better movie like Vladimir was or stop bitching and moaning.yeah lets all just come here and agree that the movies were all great and dandy. 🙄 Im done wasting my time with you.

yep because a true fan would be pissed about that moronic change.

a true fan would be happy they made a decent movie and it didnt end up like punisher or dd

and for your information,sony will not allow Raimi to make the movie the way he wants to make it because in the june 2002 issue of wizard magazine he said he would love to include gwen stacy in a sequel,well there has been no sign that gwen is ever going to be in a sequel.all signs point that sony will not allow Raimi to make the movie the way he wants to because just like stan lee -who was against the organic change,there are indications that even though Raimi says he liked the idea of organics,he really doesnt,that he was just going along with whatever sony wanted.they are the producers so he has to go along with whatever they tell him they want in the movie.

Lets see,Raimi says he wants to have Gwen stacy in a sequel,all indications show she will never be in one,doesnt take a genius to see that he cant make the movie the way he wants to make it and has to do whatever sony tells him to do,except for casting people and a few other things of course.

bullshit... if stan wasnt happy he could pull the plug, or at least tie it up in so much red tape it would never get released. if raimi wasnt happy he could walk out, come on. its not like sony had a gun to their heads. and does raimi like organics or doesnt he? you contradicted yourself there.

if u had a decent reason why you didnt like the movies other than 'organics', this would be a decent debate...

its a waste of time paying you any attention...

then suggest that having Venom in number 3 will somehow remedy that (non-existent) problem is beyond a joke.

One of the rare times I actually agree with you Red Superfly.Yeah I agree with you on that point that Venom being in number 3 would hardly remedy the problem and be a quick fix to the movies.That would hardly solve the problem.I have to disagree with you on that one Vladimir.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
yep because a true fan would be pissed about that moronic change.and for your information,sony will not allow Raimi to make the movie the way he wants to make it because in the june 2002 issue of wizard magazine he said he would love to include gwen stacy in a sequel,well there has been no sign that gwen is ever going to be in a sequel.all signs point that sony will not allow Raimi to make the movie the way he wants to because just like stan lee -who was against the organic change,there are indications that even though Raimi says he liked the idea of organics,he really doesnt,that he was just going along with whatever sony wanted.they are the producers so he has to go along with whatever they tell him they want in the movie.

Lets see,Raimi says he wants to have Gwen stacy in a sequel,all indications show she will never be in one,doesnt take a genius to see that he cant make the movie the way he wants to make it and has to do whatever sony tells him to do,except for casting people and a few other things of course.Im reminded now why I seldom ever venture into the spiderman section anymore.Because anytime someone comes on here and bashs these films they are greeted with childish remarks such as -lets see you make a better movie like Vladimir was or stop bitching and moaning.yeah lets all just come here and agree that the movies were all great and dandy. 🙄 Im done wasting my time with you.

Well in that case I hope Raimi just makes The Lizard. It's a straight forward story - man injects himself with Lizard DNA (Thankyou Ang Lee and Hulk for making THAT idea now seem unoriginal - I mean WTF?) and turns into a Lizard under stress or whatever (sometimes I think Ang Lee was reading the wrong comic when re-imagined Hulk.......).

Then again, being bitten by a radioactive spider was somehow deemed to be "unnacceptable" so ya never know. Maybe The LIzard will be an elephant.........lol just taking the p*ss.

Originally posted by Red Superfly
Well in that case I hope Raimi just makes The Lizard. It's a straight forward story - man injects himself with Lizard DNA (Thankyou Ang Lee and Hulk for making THAT idea now seem unoriginal - I mean WTF?) and turns into a Lizard under stress or whatever (sometimes I think Ang Lee was reading the wrong comic when re-imagined Hulk.......).

Then again, being bitten by a radioactive spider was somehow deemed to be "unnacceptable" so ya never know. Maybe The LIzard will be an elephant.........lol just taking the p*ss.

Another rare occassion I agree with you. 😄 Yeah I would prefer that just The Lizard is in the next film and no Goblin after seeing what they did to the goblin suit in the first film. 😘 yeah I notice how the lizard and the hulk are similiar and how they change into who they are because of getting stressed or angry.I would not be surprised in the next film if they have The lizard become bad because he gets manipulated by his tail.with sony anything is possible.

Well I'm not too fussed about them changing it ever so slightly - but I seriously don't think they should try to

To be honest, I didn't like the idea of Dr. Octopus being a good guy to begin with - and then pulling a Darth Vader and turning good again. I would have really prefferred if he was an ass right from the start and then became respectful of Spider-Man - leading to his eventual good turn.

It's because if The Lizard is in the third, he'll be yet ANOTHER good guy bad guy good guy thing - where Pete has to reason with Conners and try to connect with the man inside the monster. Both Green Goblin and Doc Ock have already done that idea.

That's why I kinda wished Doc Ock was just like the comic, in that he was a commited, brash, quite greedy and nasty scientist who turned bad, used his mech arms for selfish reasons (without being "talked into it"😉 and then fighting Spider-Man, respecting his skills, and eventually give up his evil ways. They should have really played up to Doc Ocks admiration for Spider-Man as a fighter. He hated the man, but he always respected him.

Now, it seems, The Lizard, in terms of character, has already been done. The whole "accident turns good guy bad" has been done twice. I think they should have thought it through a bit more and used Doc Ock as a "different" kind of enemy - in that he was corrupt from the start and only the love of science brought Parker and Octavious to a resolution.
However, Spidey 3 is the perfect opportunity to show have SPidey use his science as a means of saving the day. He has pretty much used his muscles all the time up till now - but I like the potential with The Lizard story: Pete needs to find a scientific solution to Conners condition, keep it all a secret, and eventually prove to his concerned mentor that he is indeed a brilliant scientist (having Conners become impressed with Spider-Mans science skills would show how far Pete has progressed)

Originally posted by Blind-Enemy
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by this post i can tell you never read Daredevil or Punisher , cause ( especially Punisher) were the worst comic book adaptations EVER

That's a load of shit. Daredevil was a poor adaptation, but Punisher was dead on. Or didn't you read "Welcome Back Frank"? Scenes from the movie are taken directly from the comic, it's ****ing sweet.

Punisher wasn't based on the original Punisher story, it was based on Garth Ennis's "Welcome Back Frank" storyarc. They did a damn good job too.

But it was rubbish.........

it was ok, it could have been a lot better, and they stole that scene from mad max...

Doc Ock is the best thing about the two Spider-Man movies.He OWNS them both.

Like many wise people have said in the past, "Don't feed the trolls"
Mr Parker, Baker boy, Vladimir

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
That's a load of shit. Daredevil was a poor adaptation, but Punisher was dead on. Or didn't you read "Welcome Back Frank"? Scenes from the movie are taken directly from the comic, it's ****ing sweet.

Punisher wasn't based on the original Punisher story, it was based on Garth Ennis's "Welcome Back Frank" storyarc. They did a damn good job too.

Words spoken straight from my heart, brings tears to my eyes weep

Nice 😮‍💨

Originally posted by TheFilmProphet
I think Mr Parker is Vladimir 😏

No hes not.....and yes the spider man movies suck!!

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
That's a load of shit. Daredevil was a poor adaptation, but Punisher was dead on. Or didn't you read "Welcome Back Frank"? Scenes from the movie are taken directly from the comic, it's ****ing sweet.

Punisher wasn't based on the original Punisher story, it was based on Garth Ennis's "Welcome Back Frank" storyarc. They did a damn good job too.

i did some searching and i have to agree with the Ennis part ; ok it had scenes taken directly from the comic but the acting in the movie was poor , regardless of how well done the action scenes were done ... i dont think the movie sucked but i think the supporting cast was awful , but my only complain about the Punisher was it wasnt based on the original story , but if you said they did a good job i'll have to take your word on this

I didnt know that post an opinion is being a troll.

some of you guys are obsessed with spiderman, go outside and get a girlfriend or even a life.

Originally posted by TheFilmProphet
Like many wise people have said in the past, "Don't feed the trolls"
Mr Parker, Baker boy, Vladimir

You need to look in the mirror when calling someone a troll.engaging in name calling just because someone criticises a movie you like would qualify as being a troll. 🙄

the man-spider movies were a joke, thats all there really is to say about them .....yet people still insist on defending it, why? because these people are judging it on what they shouldn't be...these people aren't really watching the movie and paying attention to it if they cant see the oh so many mistakes there are in the man-spider movies,but ok i can deal with that ....but what really baffles me the most is why you people are defending spider-man having organics?!?!?!?! spider-man having organics totally ruins his character along with the other mistakes. the only way organics could be justified is if the webs were coming out of his ass because thats were it would normally come out of....but no it comes out of his wrists which makes no sense at all...so he is man-spider.

and i cant believe that people just start jumping to conclusions if two people have the same feelings about this joke of a movie....did it ever occur that more than one person hates the man-spider movies....i could name five people i know of on this website and about 20 from other websites

ur complaining won't do anything, the only people that are going to read it is the people that come to this forum.