Magneto's force field can't withstand "extremely" strong attacks for long, if'n the forcefield could then Magneto would be "the" strongest villan of all-time but thats not the case at all..The fact is Apoc will wear down Magneto's shield with his powers.....
No, even if he could withstand Apoc's attacks doesnt mean he would be the strongest villain.
Anyway, he can also go on the offensive while keeping up his forcefield and levitating himself.
clickclick: Magneto would have to literally, according to your assumption,be absolutely flawless in this actual battle..I mean Magneto is strong and all but you and I both know that he's not going to flawlessly beat Apocalypse, I mean somewhere in the battle Apoc is going to score at least "some kind" of attack, he has his own timeline in the comics for crying out loud(Age of Apocalypse), why make someone so influential and potent to the X-men storyline lose without scoring a single attack?..And like I stated earlier while Magneto could and will score some offensive attacks off of Apoc no doubt about that but that doesn't mean it's enough to stop him, Apoc is just as invulnerable as the hulk or thanos and his body can take all sorts of physical damage, Magneto on the other hand is not invulnerable to attacks and if you get pass that magnetic forcefield then Magneto's body is about as vunerable as gambits or cyclops and if Apoc manages to get "one good" blow on him then it's over, so the point I'm getting at is while Apoc "can" definetly withstand a large amount of Magneto's attacks the same "can't" be said for Magneto, he would have to be perfect in this particular battle and you and I know that Magneto is not gonna score a "perfect" win off of one of Marvel's most powerful mutants..Apoc's energetic blast far exceed any sentinel/Cyclop's optic-like blasts...
They would make this a good battle but this battle is not going to be Magneto uses his forcefield while projecting magnetic-oriented objects at a constantly progressing Apoc, that's too simple and one-sided..Apoc is not that stupid but on the contrary rather "intelligent" in battle he can make his hand a shield and hurl it towards Magneto, Apoc can also make himself grow abnormal heights, I don't mean your average sentinel height but gigantic master mold type stature in which Magneto "can't" manipulate with his Magnetic power..also this increases Apoc's energetic blasts tenfold..That magnetic shield ain't going to last forever in that battle...if that's the case Magneto would never lose a battle in the comics which I'm sure by now he did..Other enemies overcame the magnetic shield factor so I "know" Apocalypse can as well...The X-men + Xavier has toppled Magneto on many occasions but they "never" defeated Apocalypse, the only thing to really stop Apoc is trapping him in time. Have you ever seen Apocalypse physically damaged or beaten to a pulp? No. They have to use clever trickery or some sort of time tablets to rid the world of Apoc...
SarKastic_OJclickclick: Magneto would have to literally, according to your assumption,be absolutely flawless in this actual battle..I mean Magneto is strong and all but you and I both know that he's not going to flawlessly beat Apocalypse, I mean somewhere in the battle Apoc is going to score at least "some kind" of attack, he has his own timeline in the comics for crying out loud(Age of Apocalypse), why make someone so influential and potent to the X-men storyline lose without scoring a single attack?..And like I stated earlier while Magneto could and will score some offensive attacks off of Apoc no doubt about that but that doesn't mean it's enough to stop him, Apoc is just as invulnerable as the hulk or thanos and his body can take all sorts of physical damage, Magneto on the other hand is not invulnerable to attacks and if you get pass that magnetic forcefield then Magneto's body is about as vunerable as gambits or cyclops and if Apoc manages to get "one good" blow on him then it's over, so the point I'm getting at is while Apoc "can" definetly withstand a large amount of Magneto's attacks the same "can't" be said for Magneto, he would have to be perfect in this particular battle and you and I know that Magneto is not gonna score a "perfect" win off of one of Marvel's most powerful mutants..Apoc's energetic blast far exceed any sentinel/Cyclop's optic-like blasts...
Age Of Apocalypse wasn't something Apocalypse himself did. Legion killed Xavier, so there wasn't anyone to create the X-Men to oppose Apocalypse and other mutant menace. Additionally, this was before Victor became Doom, Stark became Iron Man, Blake found Mljornir, etc. It wasn't like the Avengers, Alpha Flight, Defenders, etc. were established. It wasn't like his victory was all that successive. And he only conquered America, the rest of the world still belonged to humans.
And what idea would give you that Apocalypse would break through Magnus' force field and that Magneto needs to be perfect in a fight with Apocalypse? This is the guy that has messed with the Earth's magnetic polarities before. What gives you the idea that Apocalypse's power even operates on a planetery level like Magnus can?
They would make this a good battle but this battle is not going to be Magneto uses his forcefield while projecting magnetic-oriented objects at a constantly progressing Apoc, that's too simple and one-sided..Apoc is not that stupid but on the contrary rather "intelligent" in battle he can make his hand a shield and hurl it towards Magneto, Apoc can also make himself grow abnormal heights, I don't mean your average sentinel height but gigantic master mold type stature in which Magneto "can't" manipulate with his Magnetic power..also this increases Apoc's energetic blasts tenfold..That magnetic shield ain't going to last forever in that battle...if that's the case Magneto would never lose a battle in the comics which I'm sure by now he did..Other enemies overcame the magnetic shield factor so I "know" Apocalypse can as well...The X-men + Xavier has toppled Magneto on many occasions but they "never" defeated Apocalypse, the only thing to really stop Apoc is trapping him in time. Have you ever seen Apocalypse physically damaged or beaten to a pulp? No. They have to use clever trickery or some sort of time tablets to rid the world of Apoc...
Just 'cause Apocalypse can increase his size, it doesn't mean his powers increase as well. What gives you this indication that his power increases ten fold? As for the X-Men only defeated Apocalypse is by trapping him in time, YOU'RE USING THE CARTOON AGAIN AREN'T YOU? 😱 Oh boy, this is comic Apocalypse VS. comic Magneto. Cartoon Apocalypse is clearly different and more powerful than comic Apocalypse; the guy was nearly unstoppable. Comic Apocalypse, on the other hand, has yet to be listed as this. So he can increase his size and control his own molecule, what else can Apocalypse do?
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Age Of Apocalypse wasn't something Apocalypse himself did. Legion killed Xavier, so there wasn't anyone to create the X-Men to oppose Apocalypse and other mutant menace. Additionally, this was before Victor became Doom, Stark became Iron Man, Blake found Mljornir, etc. It wasn't like the Avengers, Alpha Flight, Defenders, etc. were established. It wasn't like his victory was all that successive. And he only conquered America, the rest of the world still belonged to humans.And what idea would give you that Apocalypse would break through Magnus' force field and that Magneto needs to be perfect in a fight with Apocalypse? This is the guy that has messed with the Earth's magnetic polarities before. What gives you the idea that Apocalypse's power even operates on a planetery level like Magnus can?
Just 'cause Apocalypse can increase his size, it doesn't mean his powers increase as well. What gives you this indication that his power increases ten fold? As for the X-Men only defeated Apocalypse is by trapping him in time, YOU'RE USING THE CARTOON AGAIN AREN'T YOU? 😱 Oh boy, this is comic Apocalypse VS. comic Magneto. Cartoon Apocalypse is clearly different and more powerful than comic Apocalypse; the guy was nearly unstoppable. Comic Apocalypse, on the other hand, has yet to be listed as this. So he can increase his size and control his own molecule, what else can Apocalypse do?
well he took blackbolts scream and laughed about it... all while in a weakened state. can magneto produce anything that devastating?? remotely....??? because i doubt it. even then apocalypse laughed at it. of coarse magneto can manipulate the magnetic poles... he is after all the master of magnetism...
but hes not the master of apocalyspe, and i see him going down hard in this battle.
JuggernautFanwell he took blackbolts scream and laughed about it... all while in a weakened state. can magneto produce anything that devastating?? remotely....??? because i doubt it. even then apocalypse laughed at it. of coarse magneto can manipulate the magnetic poles... he is after all the master of magnetism...
but hes not the master of apocalyspe, and i see him going down hard in this battle.
...while he was syphoning X-Man and a few other mutants' powers to do so? This is X-Man we're talking about. Apocalypse would be killed rather than laugh about Black Bolt's attack, if not for using others to increase his own might during that onslaught.
I still don't see any evidence that Apocalypse can match Magneto in power.
where do you see the evidence that he don't just accept it if Magneto wanted to he could have destroyed the earth. Wonder if Magnetos force field would protect him from Blackbolts scream? But sound is a part of the electromagnetic spectrum wouldn't Magneto be able to manipulate it just he can do with light (Dazzler)
doesnt matter seeing Black Bolts control of weak nuclear forces are more advanced than Magneto's control of magnetism...magnetism is not present in every form of energy...Magneto has demonstrated he can use his power to effect electro-magnetic energy, not gravity, weak nuclear force, or strong nuclear force. Magneto may have control of magnetism, but only to a certain extent. Is he powerful enough to destroy a galaxy with his power like molecule man?> no, because he lacks sufficient power...He may have power over magnetism but he has a limit and u r forgetting this...Blackbolt has greater power than Magneto, regardless of who has the most fundamental power.
Blackbolt is marginally more powerful than Magneto.
i never said it was the most powerful: gravity<EM<weak nuclear forces< strong nuclear forces...they are all their own, yet you have tried to syncrotize EM with the rest...Im not going to quote any articles...I had to have an understanding of EM and magnetism when performing Proton and Carbon-13 NMR in organic chemistry labs...Im not relying on what comic books or you have to sayabout the matter.... rather my professors.