Should gays be allowed to adopted kids?

Then, per the definition, said individuals doing behavior that is unwise means that they are stupid

Yes, I never said they weren't actually stupid for doing some of those actions you explained. I said they shouldn't be put down for it, because they aren't doing any harm to other people. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Generally, I find jokes to be light of heart and funny. The amount of hatred in your post left no such sensation.

Light hearted humor is only one of the many types of humor, just because you don't like other types of humor (such as my joke above) doesn't mean it isn't a type of humor. Again, what I said was meant as a joke, nothing more.

I am amazed by all this, to be frank. If I had attacked homosexuals with the amount of vitriol that you attacked "right-wing Christian extremists", then there would be a complete uprising by the KMC boards. People would have attacked me, hammering away invectives and insults against me.

There's a difference between attacking right wing christian extremists who want to take away rights. The fact that we're only discussing extremists here denotes that it's only a very small group of people. The term extremist is generally taken as a negative, if you're an extremist in anything then that's bad because chances are whatever they're being "extremist" about is causing harm to someone else. Where as being gay harms no one in any way.

What bothers me the most of all is the two arguments that everyone seems to be hurling around about forcing one's beliefs on another and prejudice. Are not we all forcing our beliefs on another by either allowing or disallowing the right for homosexuals to adopt? If I refuse, I am forcing my "idiotic" Christian beliefs on you. If you allow for adoption, you are not forcing your beliefs on me--although you are--but you are doing what is right and good.

I've heard this before, and it's false.

Not allowing gay people to adopt is unjustly effecting their lives by taking away a right that belongs to everyone else. Thus, this is forcing other peoples beliefs onto them. By allowing them to is simply giving them the rights that they deserve, the same rights everyone else has. This does not effect those who are opposed to it, they aren't forced to do anything because of it, and it changes their lives in no way. They can still be against this if they choose to be. Now, if we were saying "gay people should be allowed to adopt but all those who disagree shouldn't be allowed to adopt" then THAT would be what you're talking about. Giving everyone equal rights is not forcing beliefs onto anyone, people can still choose to disagree with it and have whatever beliefs they choose to.

And who are YOU to speak of prejudice? Are you not prejudice against Christians? Are you not full of loathing towards the "right-wing Christian extremists"? Indeed you are.

No, I'm not prejudice against Christians at all, numerous friends of mine are Christian, I have no problem with Christians, as long as they don't let their religion give them the idea that prejudice is acceptable. Me disliking right wings christian extremists for what I consider to be harmful and unfair beliefs that they choose to partake in is NOT the same as them disliking homosexuals for their sexual preferences which all scientific evidnece proves to be chromosonal and NOT based on choice, and trying to take away rights that they should have because of this. Despite the fact that I may not like them, I am not trying to take away rights of any kind. They are, that's the difference my friend. And I don't loathe them, again what I said was a joke, nothing more. Please keep that in mind, for I'm getting sick of repeating myself.

Originally posted by Silver Stardust
You know what? Shut up. I'm sick of your stupid-ass remarks. Who are YOU to tell someone that they don't deserve to have kids because of their sexual preference? You do NOT have the right to tell someone what they do or do not deserve to have or do.

Come out of your cave and realize that this is the 21st century.

He's not in a cave, Silver Stardust, he's in "an Amish paradise." Oops! Same thing...

Clarification-time!
It was I who started “bashing” right-wing extremist Christians, by saying we should take away their rights to procreate.

This group of people is dangerous, and is violently opposed to other peoples civil rights. Who kill abortion doctors? Who will go to extremes to prevent gay people from getting married and adopt kids? Who’re trying to take sex-ed out of the schools? Who wants to have a culturally accepted delusion (Creationism) presented on an equal basis with evolution?
Who’re behind racism and hate-crimes?

Do you know any gay people who’re against heterosexuals? Who wants to prevent heterosexuals from adopting? Who’re telling people with whom and when to have sex? And who… to top it off… have no other reason for this, than some old and antique book???

Mind-numbing!

“Gays dont deserve to have kids end of discussion”
Look at that. Just – LOOK at this statement!
There is nothing else in the post. This redneck is such a coward he won’t even list his reasons for his claims, nor engage in a debate on the matter.

I'm pretty sure (or at least I hope) you're joking about not letting them procreate, so I'll ignore that comment. I agree their views are distorted and their actions are sometimes inexcusable. But don't condemn the group, condemn the individual.

Afro_Cheese> Yes, that was a joke!
I – as opposed to some other people- won’t prevent anyone from having or adopting kids if they’re capable of raising them.
My comment was simply to put things into persepective.

I am unable to resist quoting the Private Eye; "Look, he's cruising!" 🪩

Originally posted by The Omega

“Gays dont deserve to have kids end of discussion”
Look at that. Just – LOOK at this statement!
There is nothing else in the post. This redneck is such a coward he won’t even list his reasons for his claims, nor engage in a debate on the matter.

No I have my reasons

1 homosexuality is unnatural
2. Kids raised in that kind of home would be confused

Got anything to back up those statements? No, I don't think you do.

Originally posted by Napalm

2. Kids raised in that kind of home would be confused

Kids need parents of both gender a gay couple couldnt provide that

why do they need that?

Originally posted by Ronny
why do they need that?

Children need a mother figure in there lives and also a father figure without them they cant fully develop emotionally

Says who?

Once again...you need to back up these statements.

Napalm/Scarpa> I'll just repeat myself since the post that contained this obviously was too long for you to read:

Lesbian couples raise well-adjusted teenagers http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6670
Yep, that’s a fact: “Teenagers raised by lesbian mothers show no developmental differences compared to those brought up by heterosexual parents, according to the first large national study in the US.”
BIG surprise to those with half a brain or more.

Originally posted by The Omega
Napalm/Scarpa> I'll just repeat myself since the post that contained this obviously was too long for you to read:

Lesbian couples raise well-adjusted teenagers http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6670
Yep, that’s a fact: “Teenagers raised by lesbian mothers show no developmental differences compared to those brought up by heterosexual parents, according to the first large national study in the US.”
BIG surprise to those with half a brain or more.

Thats utter maggot crap. And I would figure that mod like you wouldnt be bashin a member

Originally posted by Napalm
Children need a mother figure in there lives and also a father figure without them they cant fully develop emotionally

i have a father thats it. does that mean he cant HAVE me anymore because i dont have a mother around and i will grow up confused about the female anatomy or something? the sex of the parents has no relevance what can a father provide that a mother cant, what can a mother provide that a father cant?

Originally posted by Napalm
Thats utter maggot crap. And I would figure that mod like you wouldnt be bashin a member

No, that's where you're wrong. Everything YOU'VE said is utter crap. All you've done is spout bullshit without backing up a single thing you've said.

Originally posted by Ronny
your saying the same exact thing except your using bigger words

i have a father thats it. does that mean he cant HAVE me anymore because i don't have a mother around and i will grow up confused about the female anatomy or something? the sex of the parents has no relevance what can a father provide that a mother cant, what can a mother provide that a father cant?

Thats not his fault He he takes care of you because your his child gay don't have kids they make a choice to have kids. And If they were really responsible they wouldn't want kids

The American Academy of Pediatrics' Committee on Psychosocial Aspects of Child and Family Health issued a report in 2002, the most recent comprehensive review of gay-parenting studies. It found no meaningful differences between children raised by gay parents and those raised by heterosexual parents.

No differences have been found in personality measures, peer group relationships, self-esteem, behavioral difficulties, academic success and quality of family relationships. The studies suggest only one meaningful difference: Children of gay parents are "more tolerant of diversity and more nurturing toward younger children than children whose parents are heterosexual."

The American Academy of Pediatrics report is the most prestigious of its kind, but it is not the only one. Most reviews of the social science research reach the same conclusion: The proposition that children suffer when raised by gay parents is without basis. Indeed, some evidence suggests that the only significant difference between children raised by same-sex couples and children raised by heterosexual couples is that the former feel freer to explore occupations and behaviors unhampered by traditional gender roles — a good thing.

While gay parenting needs further study, this much is clear: Most objective observers find no reason to accept the notion that children need protection from gay parents.

And that means it's time to drop the canard that gay couples do not raise children or do not raise them well.

Originally posted by Napalm
Children need a mother figure in there lives and also a father figure without them they cant fully develop emotionally

What about single parents who raise a perfectly adjusted child without the other parent figure? What does that mean? Oh yeah, you're statement if bullshit, that's right.