Halo 3

Originally posted by Wandering Flame
Well then, if I argued Halo 3's visuals are better, why are you unable to quote me? Something seems fishy.

So do you believe Halo's visuals are better or not?

You either do, or you don't. The fact is, you cannot prefer which visuals are technically superior, and considering everyone (Even people who prefer Halo) agrees that Bioshock has the edge there, I'm curious as to why you are so scared to say "Ok, I prefer Halo, but upon playing both games, I can clearly see the superior graphics.". Everyone else can.

Originally posted by Wandering Flame
My post has no signs of editing, or no hint the links are any different. They even show the same file names at the end of the links, with the same photobucket account username.

Why are you even continuing it? Are you seriously trying that hard to convince people you didn't edit it? Either way, the whole argument is getting pointless, let's focus on what the links contain anyway, shall we? The graphics, that's what this is about.

Let's start that debate again, beginning with those pictures you posted RECENTLY. Wipe the slate clean, ok? Good.

Those ones are NOT first-person, IN game. So therefore, it is stupid to use those. I posted hi-res, in-game shots from both games, first person view, and you claimed I was comparing biased pics. So you posted shots that aren't technically what you see when you turn the game on and play first person.

Originally posted by Wandering Flame
The reason the links don't "work" in your post, is because the "..." in the links show up in the address bar, only when you click on them in your post.

So the fact that when they're clicked on from your post, and the "..." appear in the address bar means nothing? 😕

And this is rather strange for another reason. You weren't even able to say what the original trailer-rendered pics (that you claimed I posted) were of. 😬

This is all very, very funny. You continue to scramble and panic over trying to prove your innocence. Unlike me, who can safely sit back and rest on the fact that you're a liar who is relying on continuing to post, rather than having anything to say, just like in the DMC 4 thread. I'll admit, I was being silly for continuing it, because you're the kind of kid who thinks he is still in a debate because he's still posting.

It wasn't until a moderator said to me "He's going to ignore fact after fact because he's being an idiot, you're smarter than to indulge him.", that I realised I don't even have to try.

Originally posted by Wandering Flame
I'm supposed to find the graphic specs in "all you hip-hop haters"?

At the bottom of this page.

Originally posted by Wandering Flame
Once you post the measuring specs, which you'll do god knows when.

The burden is on you. I've posted them, you want them. I don't need to post them because I've done so before and it proved my argument. Everyone here, fans of Halo, are clearly giving Bioshock the graphical edge because it has the edge. Think about this angle, for ONE second, ok?

If it was just me saying it, I could totally understand and respect you saying "Well, no. That sounds dodgy.", but it isn't is it? It's just about everybody, including reputable gaming sources. Are we honestly all wrong? No, we're not. The fact that people on both sides of the fence agree on Bioshock being superior graphically, because it is, should be a bit of a light bulb moment for you.

You are being very non-committal. You say "I am not claiming Halo 3's graphics are better.", then you say you will not concede that Bioshock's are.

What do you believe?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So do you believe Halo's visuals are better or not?

You either do, or you don't. The fact is, you cannot prefer which visuals are technically superior, and considering everyone (Even people who prefer Halo) agrees that Bioshock has the edge there, I'm curious as to why you are so scared to say "Ok, I prefer Halo, but upon playing both games, I can clearly see the superior graphics.". Everyone else can.

But it's true.

Why are you even continuing it? Are you seriously trying that hard to convince people you didn't edit it? Do I need to link people to the page of the original post, with the original links that are dead and deleted? That would pretty much prove that the new quote has edited links, and that they are not the same.

This is all very, very funny. You continue to scramble and panic over trying to prove your innocence. Unlike me, who can safely sit back and rest on the fact that you're a liar who is relying on continuing to post, rather than having anything to say, just like in the DMC 4 thread. I'll admit, I was being silly for continuing it, because you're the kind of kid who thinks he is still in a debate because he's still posting.

It wasn't until a moderator said to me "He's going to ignore fact after fact because he's being an idiot, you're smarter than to indulge him.", that I realised I don't even have to try.

At the bottom of this page.

The burden is on you. I've posted them, you want them. I don't need to post them because I've done so before and it proved my argument. Everyone here, fans of Halo, are clearly giving Bioshock the graphical edge because it has the edge. Think about this angle, for ONE second, ok?

If it was just me saying it, I could totally understand and respect you saying "Well, no. That sounds dodgy.", but it isn't is it? It's just about everybody, including reputable gaming sources. Are we honestly all wrong? No, we're not. The fact that people on both sides of the fence agree on Bioshock being superior graphically, because it is, should be a bit of a light bulb moment for you.

You are being very non-committal. You say "I am not claiming Halo 3's graphics are better.", then you say you will not concede that Bioshock's are.

What do you believe?

-AC

Gentlemen you need to stop this now, for both you, the thread and other posters around here, I ask you kindly to put away your differences and squabbles, and detest this situation if you wish then please continue via pm, but other posters don't like the atmosphere or sadness of you two at logger heads all the time, I ask you kindly to please stop, immediately.

Accepted.

I have PMed him. It's done on my part.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Accepted.

I have PMed him. It's done on my part.

-AC

Thank you.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
indeed...

what else do you think needs fixing besides melee? I think they need to tweak the head hitboxes... shootin someone in the shoulder and gettin a headshot is just goddamn stupid.... 😐

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So do you believe Halo's visuals are better or not? You either do, or you don't. The fact is, you cannot prefer which visuals are technically superior, and considering everyone (Even people who prefer Halo) agrees that Bioshock has the edge there, I'm curious as to why you are so scared to say "Ok, I prefer Halo, but upon playing both games, I can clearly see the superior graphics.". Everyone else can.

When I saw the trailer of the "fake" gameplay trailer of Bioshock, I was silly and believed that was all in game footage.

Upon first playing Bioshock from the start, the graphics looked fairly close to being on par, what with the shoes and purse falling in the water and the water bubbles you first see when you start the game, the moon in the background, and water (which looked very beautiful, although up close seemed kinda...ish...) and the stairs you first see when you get out of the water looked very detailed, as well as the first lit rooms you see when you enter the building.

You may get the point that I'm trying to make. The point I'm making here is that the game looks the best it does in the beginning levels. From that point on it either gets worse, but nevertheless no better. Very much like Ninja Gaiden, in that it looks the best during the beginning parts of the game.

Later throughout Bioshock, I've started to notice that many objects like bottles and registers seemed to not be so detailed as say, Halo 3's weapons and items.

I've also noticed the enemies (people, corpses, etc.) were somewhat poorly designed. They look nothing like any Spartan in Halo 3.

But for the entire time I've considered getting Bioshock (before I've purchased it) I've adopted the belief that its graphics are superior to the visuals of any other game (judging by the trailer of the supposed real gameplay footage).

Please do not ask me which visuals I believe are better. Just post the specs to end this part of the argument.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why are you even continuing it? Are you seriously trying that hard to convince people you didn't edit it? Either way, the whole argument is getting pointless, let's focus on what the links contain anyway, shall we? The graphics, that's what this is about. Let's start that debate again, beginning with those pictures you posted RECENTLY. Wipe the slate clean, ok? Good. Those ones are NOT first-person, IN game. So therefore, it is stupid to use those. I posted hi-res, in-game shots from both games, first person view, and you claimed I was comparing biased pics. So you posted shots that aren't technically what you see when you turn the game on and play first person.

The fact that those pictures can be seen from a first-person view...that's it, there you go. A gun showing on the side of the screen wouldn't make the pictures any less detailed (or different in any graphical way) than they already are, and you probably already know this, but Halo isn't entirely played from a first-person view, at least not when using the grenade launcher (or whatever it's called).

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
This is all very, very funny. You continue to scramble and panic over trying to prove your innocence. Unlike me, who can safely sit back and rest on the fact that you're a liar who is relying on continuing to post, rather than having anything to say, just like in the DMC 4 thread. I'll admit, I was being silly for continuing it, because you're the kind of kid who thinks he is still in a debate because he's still posting.

And what facts have you stated that I denied? I don't recall any.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It wasn't until a moderator said to me "He's going to ignore fact after fact because he's being an idiot, you're smarter than to indulge him.", that I realised I don't even have to try.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
At the bottom of this page.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The burden is on you.

To someone (myself) who didn't make such a claim and asked: "Can I have confirmation that Bioshock's visuals are better, with exact measurements?"

Tell me again if the burden of proof is on me, because you know, I want to laugh to myself again.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I've posted them, you want them. I don't need to post them because I've done so before and it proved my argument. Everyone here, fans of Halo, are clearly giving Bioshock the graphical edge because it has the edge. Think about this angle, for ONE second, ok? If it was just me saying it, I could totally understand and respect you saying "Well, no. That sounds dodgy.", but it isn't is it? It's just about everybody, including reputable gaming sources. Are we honestly all wrong? No, we're not. The fact that people on both sides of the fence agree on Bioshock being superior graphically, because it is, should be a bit of a light bulb moment for you. You are being very non-committal. You say "I am not claiming Halo 3's graphics are better.", then you say you will not concede that Bioshock's are. What do you believe?

And why do I not just PM this? If I were to, there would be one purpose. That purpose would be to try to get you to concede any point you can, which would be a rather tedious, and almost pointless task for me.

I post rebuttals here, so people who don't already know the truth will know it at one point, not that anyone would deny the scans I posted. So far, I recall one person who mentioned "aliasing", which, is only a result of bad monitors.

I wouldn't be doing my job if someone was to come here, listen to your bullshit and think, "Dammit...Halo 3 doesn't look that good?" and no longer consider getting it.

Well...he was warned.

Originally posted by General G
Well...he was warned.

I asked them to leave it alone.

And you did good, trying to keep the atmosphere of the thread positive. He was also warned by mods...and if you check his profile...that is what he was banned for, disobeying a mod.

Yeah I saw...

GG can I ask what your gamertag is?

Yeah, sure:

UnequalRaccoon

Originally posted by General G
Yeah, sure:

UnequalRaccoon

Cool mine is:

Darkhalen

Friend's tag is Uhsasination.

Play her.

Very nice, I will add both.

Same here.

Originally posted by General G
Wait, wait, wait! You don't like the flying dead bodies when they get meleed every once in a while?! That always made me laugh...

The AI in Halo 3 is terrible.

Your ally AI is absolutely terrible, I think they programmed them to kill me randomly...but the enemy AI isn't too bad.

If you want a real challenge. Play campaign on Legandary, then kill enough of your allies for them to start trying to kill you.

plasma based weapon > armor pop > headshot.. repeat..

pwned...