We should fire John Williams!

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Re: We should fire John Williams!

Originally posted by tpaquin
I was talking to my musician friend, who, being an obvious expert of music through his ability to play the guitar, he said that John WIlliams was a hack.

"Hack?" I said. That was mostly due to teh fcat that I wanted clarification of the meaning of teh word.

"Yeah. All of his musical scores are nearly identical...with the exception of Amistad. Man, that was really weird."

I thought and throught. Sure, his songs define movies like Indiana Jones, Jaws, and Star Wars, along with Juriassic Park, and many others, but even though they're amazing, they;re all really similar.

Why should we let this hack write another score that's just like every other score? I hear he's actually going to recycle mucis from teh originals. Pish. Man, we need some new talent in there.

I suggest that we use either Ice-T or bongo legend Pancho Sanchez. Imagine the possibilities!

You wanna talk about hacks check out Danny Elfman he doesn't even do his own orchestration he barely even writes his own themes. But he's got a helluva team workin for him.

Besides Williams work on the original Star Wars trilogy I find most of his work rather dull

JW is a great composer.

and what do you mean 'WE' should fire him.

WE dont employ him

he neither gets employed ; he gets contracted

WE are.......................

Originally posted by finti
Besides Williams work on the [b]original Star Wars trilogy I find most of his work rather dull [/B]
This is a matter of opinion not fact. You probably do not like orchestra music.

Rather dull??? ummm Jurrasic park, Indiana jones, Harry potter, & Jaws

JW's is one of the most talent songwriters in the history of the human race I don't even know why this has to be discussed no one can deny the fact that without JW all the music in star wars would have been good instead of the astounding piece of work it is

"You wanna talk about hacks check out Danny Elfman he doesn't even do his own orchestration he barely even writes his own themes. But he's got a helluva team workin for him."

...and hanz zimmer is one of them as well. he made film scoring into an assembly line with his 'team' of film scorers, its all just one big maketing ploy with him.

(i like your sig shinobi, reminds me of myself 😉)

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.

...and hanz zimmer is one of them as well. he made film scoring into an assembly line with his 'team' of film scorers, its all just one big maketing ploy with him.

Deliver Us - Prince of egypt
The Battle - Gladiator

OK,
I'll take a production line tune any day

BTW
film scores today are the prime patrons for commissioning original classical music, and unfortunately, there are very few other supporters.

"Deliver Us - Prince of egypt
The Battle - Gladiator"

those were before his assembly line days....recently all of his music has basically been recycled over and over because he doesnt write his music anymore, his team does then he approves if its good or not.

This is a matter of opinion not fact. You probably do not like orchestra music.
I do like orchestra music or classical music as the correct term for it is, I just find most of JW`s work boring.

JW's is one of the most talent songwriters in the history of the human race
he is a composer not a songwriter

Rather dull??? ummm Jurrasic park, Indiana jones, Harry potter, & Jaws
yeah I find them dull, all of them.

Dude, John William's scores are not the same...you call Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Jaws, Harry Potter, etc, etc, etc all sounding the same...you've got a problem. He's one of the best composers out there. He's come up with some of the most original and classic scores out there. Period.

"I was talking to my musician friend, who, being an obvious expert of music through his ability to play the guitar, he said that John WIlliams was a hack.

"Hack?" I said. That was mostly due to teh fcat that I wanted clarification of the meaning of teh word.

"Yeah. All of his musical scores are nearly identical...with the exception of Amistad. Man, that was really weird."

I thought and throught. Sure, his songs define movies like Indiana Jones, Jaws, and Star Wars, along with Juriassic Park, and many others, but even though they're amazing, they;re all really similar.

Why should we let this hack write another score that's just like every other score? I hear he's actually going to recycle mucis from teh originals. Pish. Man, we need some new talent in there.

I suggest that we use either Ice-T or bongo legend Pancho Sanchez. Imagine the possibilities!"

"he is a composer not a songwriter"

what do composers write? music. what is a bunch of musical pieces put together? songs

composer=songwriter

look in the damn thesaurus

****

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
"he is a composer not a songwriter"

what do composers write? music. what is a bunch of musical pieces put together? songs

composer=songwriter

look in the damn thesaurus

****

Composer souds more sophisticated.

Originally posted by guiro72
yeah, but imagine the glory of "a long time ago etc...." *pause* - and then ace of spades by motorhead as the words star wars burst onto the screen....

awesome!!!....

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Someone needs to throw that together real quick!

I've played guitar for 14 years, so i'm just a know it all when it comes to music! Lemmy rules!!!!!!!

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.

The Battle - Gladiator"

strangely enough, thats really similar to a theme from POTC.

not to mention Hans Zimmer

ALL of the music in POTC is almost exactly the same as the entire gladiator soundtrack

good ear GCG!

there is a valid reason......... 😄

...for what?

what do composers write? music. what is a bunch of musical pieces put together? songs
a song is a poetical composition either with or without musical instruments. So musical pieces put together is a musical composition.Songs can be one sort of musical composition but not a
John Williams is regarded as a composer and conducter, if JW has lyrics to some of his music then in those pieces he can be regarded as songwriter.