We should fire John Williams!

Started by Xam6 pages

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Good job, tpaq. You turned a little joke into a 5 page thread, thanks in part to KMC members who were born without a sense of humor.

Me, I was more angry about you not being able to spell the word 'the' than I was about the topic.

There is a universe of difference in being able to play something somebody wrote, and actually creating it.

Point in case: The main guitar riff in "nothing else matters".
Simple as shit, any moron can play it, did they write it, no, James Hetfield did.

if you dont like JW, then what composer do you like?
Mozart, Beethoven, Grieg, List, Verdi, Schultz

carbon paper what do you mean?
black paper, something of the "past" you put in between papers when you wanted copies of what you write

You don't like John Williams?!! Blasphemy!!!!

Originally posted by Creechuur
Good job, tpaq. You turned a little joke into a 5 page thread, thanks in part to KMC members who were born without a sense of humor.

Me, I was more angry about you not being able to spell the word 'the' than I was about the topic.

Well, i'm glad someone actually read more than the post above his.

'teh' is very trendy nowadays.

You don't like John Williams?!! Blasphemy!!!!
you dont read posts bery well

what was the point again?

John Williams' music

If you listen to various composers' music, you can see similarities in their body of music--see John Barry's music, for James Bond and Out of Africa, etc;

Elmer Bernstein seems to have quite a large range, though--I'm trying to recall it, and have no time, now, to search the 'net for his bio

Film soundtrack music are the new classics! What will be compared with Beethoven and Mozart, in the future!

I'm just now listening to a CD I bought, of John Williams' music. the soundtrack from Heartbeeps--and I KNOW some of you will pick on the movie, but I enjoyed it, and love this music!
It gives you something different, with Williams--very electronic. there are similar bits with flutes and such, to the music from ET, and the Crimebuster theme should please those who like villain's theme songs

All artists and writers tend to dwell on something that gives them success once they find it. John Williams' music may sound similar, but he also has a great variety of themes. You can't compare the Star Wars intro to Across the Stars or Duel of The Fates aside from them all being orchestrated. John Williams is no hack.

Sorry, finti, that was my response to the thread itself. I should've been more clear.....

🙄 What cheap form

Originally posted by Maverick2364
John Williams is no hack.

Yeah, maybe, he's actually the last of the oldschool style composers. But we must all keep in mind that what he is doing is NOT original, nor could he hold a candle to Mozart or Debussey

I dont think it is so much that all his musical scores sound alike as it is that all his scores have the John Williams-style to them... and he is no hack. He is one of the only living musical legends we have, especially after Jerry Goldsmith recently passed away...

i think this thread is the worst thread i ever read!!
"Fire John Williams!". are you ****ing nuts!!!???
williams is best composer of all times man!!oh and replace him with Ice-T??!! yeah thats a good idea....

it is obvious that you arent a Star Wars fan

Originally posted by ExecuteR
i think this thread is the worst thread i ever read!!
"Fire John Williams!". are you ****ing nuts!!!???
williams is best composer of all times man!!oh and replace him with Ice-T??!! yeah thats a good idea....

it is obvious that you arent a Star Wars fan

Fool! Go listen to some Bartok and get an idea of REAL music. I ain't got time to argue with someone who doesn't know shit from shinola about music...

you gotta be joking.... i'm out of this thread its pointless

Originally posted by ExecuteR
you gotta be joking.... i'm out of this thread its pointless

I don't joke about music.

I Would like to make a few points... John Williams is in my opinion the best musical storyteller of all time. His Music can trigger emotions that is rarely heard in other modern day film composers works. Obviouslly there are clear similarities in his works, the same goes for any composer, Beethoven, Chopin, Liszt, Bach, etc... this does not make him any less of a genius. All his Scores contain new fresh exciting Ideas. For Star Wars especially, I feel he is particularly inspired. The idea of "firing" him is simply ridiculous. The clue that John Williams is so brilliant is in the fact that both George Lucas and Steven Spielberg have expicitly stated that they would not use any composer other than John Williams for their Films.

The Point that was made earlier about the similarity in the Chamber Of Secrets, and "Zam The Asaasin/The Chase Through Courscant", yes, the music is almost identical, but John Williams was heavily rushed for that film, and besides, the music still works and fits the film beautifully 😛

As for other Composers, i.e. Danny Elfman, well I love Danny Elfman's Work, but he's a simple composer and doesn't orchestrate or conuct his work, and he's best with Comedies I feel, I loved Mars Attacks! and MIB II was a nice score...

John Williams creates such amazing deep and meaningful music with so many hidden meanings and amazing motifs, Considering he has merely 3 months avg. to score films, I personally think he's most definetely amongst the most talented men alive today. And I can't wait to see what he comes up with for ROTS!!!!

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topic useless, how can u say JW sucks ???? his OST are the best ever made for cinema...