God or No God?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Do you know this? Have you had god over for dinner? Did he/she/it tell you this him/her/itself? Until then, it isn't a matter of "knowing". It's a matter of "believing".

Ahhh, but we know he lives outside of time. When he answered moses question of "What will I say when they ask 'who sent you'?" God replied "tell them 'I am' sent you." I am is in the present tense. And therefore a "Now" word. God live in the Now realm. Because we can not grasp the concept of now *woosh* it just left, like in space balls, than we can not comprehend the nature of God. But yes i've had him over for dinner. He's got some real cool stories and funny jokes, but he told me not to tell. 😛 lol

Ahhh, but we know he lives outside of time

Originally posted by finti
you believe it you dont know it.

You can not tell me what I believe and know, if you yourself don't know or believe

can not tell me what I believe and know, if you yourself don't know or believe

Religion is mans interpretation of God...

Man is Gods interpretation of himself....The mini me.

I believe in the one and only God. Christianity is not just a religeon it is a way of living and it is a shame how people take advantage of it.Do you really need to see God before you believe? NO You havee to have faith.
Now FAith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. For by it the men of old recieved divine approval. By faith we understand that the world was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was made out of things which do not appear.
Hebres 11:1-3
The Holy Bible

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Do you know this? Have you had god over for dinner? Did he/she/it tell you this him/her/itself? Until then, it isn't a matter of "knowing". It's a matter of "believing".

Just because you do not believe it does not mean that we do not know. Knowing is a spiritual connection with God's spirit and until you have not experienced it you will never grasp the concept.

Originally posted by salvanorin A
hears the question. If we were suposedly created by god what created god. And i don't wont to hear the usual bullshit answer, he's just always been here. Really can sombody give me an answer.

Well if you do not want the truth, then don't expect an answer.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Ok...here's something different. He/It is always in the process of being created and creating...It's always evolving, encircling, producing, encompassing, and enveloping..It's a huge mass and everything It creates is part of Its mass. There is no separation between it and its creation, just like there is no separation between you and your cells.

Hows that?

God said in the Bible that he is the same yesterday today and tomorrow and never changes so I guess he cannot still be evolving cause then he would have lied! And yes, there is separation between the creator (God) and his creation as when God spoke to Isaiah he said that He is above the creation and that His thoughts are not ours. If there were no separation why would there be a God?

Christianity is not just a religeon it is a way of living and it is a shame how people take advantage

Originally posted by sonnet
God said in the Bible that he is the same yesterday today and tomorrow and never changes so I guess he cannot still be evolving cause then he would have lied! And yes, there is separation between the creator (God) and his creation as when God spoke to Isaiah he said that He is above the creation and that His thoughts are not ours. If there were no separation why would there be a God?

Of course He is still evolving..Arn't galaxies still being creating and stars. God is above creation is His thoughts, but he never said that we were not part of Him. You can be apart of something on one level and not on another. He is apart of everything..Visible and invisible..

"If there were no separation why would there be a God?"

Why not? Why would that make a difference?

Originally posted by sonnet
God said in the Bible that he is the same yesterday today and tomorrow and never changes so I guess he cannot still be evolving cause then he would have lied! And yes, there is separation between the creator (God) and his creation as when God spoke to Isaiah he said that He is above the creation and that His thoughts are not ours. If there were no separation why would there be a God?

Originally posted by Storm
An immutable god cannot learn anything because learning implies change. If god cannot learn anything, then there are things which god will never know (thus conflicting with god’ s alleged omniscience) or god has always known absolutely everything. That, however, would raise the question of just what the point of creation was.

God does know everything. The word god means that he is above all. What is the point of being a god if you still have to learn like humans. The reason for the creation is not known to anyone but God. Guess we will have to wait until He makes the reason known.

Originally posted by finti
read christians, and wake up to smell the real world. lalal land aint an option

Sorry guys, but ah, Judaism and Christianity were both around before Islam. Both of these so called religions believed in the existence of only one God. The theory of only one God took serious prevalence in Jewish thought after the fall of the Kingdom of the Hebrews afte the Babylonians took over. It was a way to deal with the their displacement, their God was named Jaweh, also spelt Yahweh, source, World Religions western traditions, this book is in no way biased towards asian religions, just an explanation. This book is an important source for the study of world religions and the University of Toronto, just in case any of you object. In addition, do you ever wonder if maybe, we still try to cling on to this belief in one GOD, because we are still attached to the idea that we are the centre of the universe and thus acquire a special status, our inability to accept that we are truly insifnificant in the bigger scheme of things forces us to hope that there is a GOD that will assure us immortality, thus we will not have the same fate as the rest of the planetary system. Our need to believe in the safety of an omnipotent God symbolizes are point in evolution.

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God does not evolve. HE knows everything that was and will be. He it the I am that i am. He is the bright morning star. Now I dont care what anybody says, but all i know is that HE IS THE ONE AND ONLY GOD.

Originally posted by b-ball_chick
God does not evolve. HE knows everything that was and will be. He it the I am that i am. He is the bright morning star. Now I dont care what anybody says, but all i know is that HE IS THE ONE AND ONLY GOD.

How do you know...Cause some MAN said it...Cause some MAN in the jesus days wrote it in the bible...just because it has been written in some so called holy book doesn't make it true....God is just an idea created by man..and followed by many fools......half the stuff in the bible are just stories.....

but all i know is that HE IS THE ONE AND ONLY GOD

Originally posted by AdventChild
How do you know...Cause some MAN said it...Cause some MAN in the jesus days wrote it in the bible...just because it has been written in some so called holy book doesn't make it true....God is just an idea created by man..and followed by many fools......half the stuff in the bible are just stories.....

But it's truth. What difference does it make if there stories. People make stories so that life can be made better. Myths, legends, fables, fairy tales, all of them are created for one reason: To get across a set of ideals or morals. The bible, to some, is the greatest collection of fairy tales known to man. To others, it the greatest collection of truth every to be put together in one book. The fight for is there a God, is all based on speculisim. You must have faith to prove he exsists. Because if it is all true, those who didn't give in to doubt and took the easy way out, will be proven right. But say for instance if their wrong, if I'm wrong, than what do I lose? If I'm wrong I lose nothing, if I'm right I gain everything. I have no, as well as everyone else, no proof to prove that God exsists. But life shows clues to prove He does.