Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Reincarnation is a lie of the devil and is described as being a "doctrine of demons."1 Timothy 4:1
, [/B]
Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to [B]deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons
I don't accept it i was just tryign to understand his belief
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Reincarnation is a lie of the devil and is described as being a "doctrine of demons."1 Timothy 4:1
, [/B]
Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to [B]deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons
I fail to see how this answers Gordomuchacho's question as to Shakyamunison's beliefs.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Reincarnation is a lie of the devil and is described as being a "doctrine of demons."1 Timothy 4:1
, [/B]
Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to [B]deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons
The bible was written my demons. 😆
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Reincarnation is a lie of the devil and is described as being a "doctrine of demons."1 Timothy 4:1
, [/B]
Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to [B]deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons
Why is reincarnation more a "doctrine of demons" then all the other none Christian religions out there?
Originally posted by theReject
^EXACTLY my question and no one else has been able to answer it, so that blows the whole Big Bang theory.
I believe in God.
Me too.
http://everystudent.com/features/isthere.html
💃 🙂 😄 😎 😉
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Me too.http://everystudent.com/features/isthere.html
💃 🙂 😄 😎 😉
There is more evidence to support the Big Bang then there is for the Bible's creationism.
There are also multitudes of evidense that argue against God's very existance.
Nice Try 👇
Originally posted by -hh-
i believe in God.
Me three.
http://everystudent.com/features/isthere.html
💃 🙂 😄 😉 😎
Originally posted by Nazgulinthedark
Yes, I've heard of the evolution theory, and I believe in God. 😐
Great answer.
As a former atheist , Marilyn Adamson found it difficult to refute the continuously answered prayers and quality of life of a close friend. In challenging the beliefs of her friend, Marilyn was amazed to learn the wealth of objective evidence pointing to the existence of God. After about a year of persistent questioning, she responded to God's offer to come into her life and has found faith in Him to be constantly substantiated and greatly rewarding.
Re: What Do You Believe God Would Be Like?
Originally posted by debbiejo
Curious........If you ever could meet what we say GOD....what do think him/her/it would be like?. And what do think IT would say to you when you cross over?
A Spirit seated on a throne high and lifted up.
Poised.
Regal.
Majestic.
But yet gentle, kind, loving, compassionate...a true Father.
Luminating.
Radiating.
Awesome...
Dwelling in unapproachable light.
Powerful.
All-wise.
Someone truly to behold.
The loving Father, God would say...
I LOVE YOU___________ (insert your name here) and I have been waiting for you.
🙂
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Great answer.[B]As a former atheist
, Marilyn Adamson found it difficult to refute the continuously answered prayers and quality of life of a close friend. In challenging the beliefs of her friend, Marilyn was amazed to learn the wealth of objective evidence pointing to the existence of God. After about a year of persistent questioning, she responded to God's offer to come into her life and has found faith in Him to be constantly substantiated and greatly rewarding.
WEAK excuses for god's existence like the ones in the link that you provided would not transform an atheist into a theist assuming of course the author was indeed a real atheist to begin with.
1. Does God exist? Throughout history, in all cultures of the world, people have been convinced there is a God.
No. The book from which the quote was . . . . quoted Paul E. Little, Know Why You Believe has a religious slant into it, hence, UNRELIABLE.
Second, this is an Argumentum ad populum. "If many believe so, it is so."
Third, Theravada Buddhists dont believe in a god.
Fourth, humans dont have an INNATE belief on the existence of a Creator or Higher Being. In order to be innate, a belief must either be present at birth or acquired without instructions. The new born baby is an atheist. There is no evidence that it INSTINCTIVELY believes in the existence of a god. When the baby reaches the age of understanding it is indoctrinated into the religion of its culture, Christian, Jewish, Moslem, Buddhism, etc. Belief in a god is the result of culture
Fifth, our ancestors, using their imagination, created gods, spirits and other supernatural agents to explain the unknown
2. Does God exist? The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.
Essential to recognizing design is identifying a purpose. However, a purpose can only be determined by first knowing the intentions of the designer. For that reason we must first know God's intentions before we can detect his purpose. And before we can know God's intentions we must first prove that he exists. Here is precisely where the argument from design breaks down. In order to posit a designer God the theist must begin by assuming as true the very thing in question, the existence of God. In logic this is known as "begging the question."
To put things more simply, god must be PROVEN TO EXIST FIRST before we could CLAIM that he's the designer of the Earth or anything.
3. Does God exist? Mere "chance" is not an adequate explanation of creation.
This is the same as number 2.
Second, we already dealt with the Jumbo jet analogy before. Here is the link: http://www.ebonmusings.org/evolution/tornado.html .
The link also has quotes from Fred Hoyle LAMBASTING creationists.
4. Does God exist? Humankind's inherent sense of right and wrong cannot be biologically explained.
Some moral precepts such as those which forbid killing and stealing are indeed universal. But are these precepts as absolute as they appear? Exceptions to the ban on killing include self defense, war, and capital punishment. In regard to stealing, god himself openly encouraged it in Exodus 3:22. In 1st Kings 22:21-23 god cooperates in a devious plot against Ahab, King of Israel. The plot is based on an outright lie. Anthropologists have found that different cultures deal with moral questions in many different ways. This serves to show that morality is neither objective nor absolute; it is subjective and conditional.
The truth is that good and evil exist independently not only of human opinion but also of god's will. Suppose, for example, god commanded that lying, stealing, and murder were now our moral duty. Does anyone seriously believe that these actions would somehow become morally acceptable in the eyes of most humans? If god did command such a thing, it would not make them good. Therefore, what is judged to be good or evil does not depend on what god commands. These absolutes derive directly from the human condition. They would exist much as they do today if god had never been heard of.
Viewing morality as the NATURAL OUTGROWTH of the human survival instinct, it is no longer necessary to posit god as an explanation.
5. Does God exist? God not only has revealed Himself in what can be observed in nature, and in human life, but He has even more specifically shown Himself in the Bible.
God exists because the Bible says so, and the Bible is the word of god . . . . Riiight!!!
First, this is obviously a circular argument therefore it has no credibility. In order for this argument to be taken seriously, the Bible must be absolutely correct and thoroughly consistent in all that it says. When objectively analyzed, however, the Bible is shown to be both inconsistent and unreliable.
6. Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God.
Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God according to the Bible.
The Bible is the word of god
Therefore, Jesus is god.
Yeah this is just the same as number 5.
Most of these refutations come from Louis Cable's compilation. Check this link: http://home.inu.net/skeptic/god.html .
Originally posted by Templares
WEAK excuses for god's existence like the ones in the link that you provided would not transform an atheist into a theist assuming of course the author was indeed a real atheist to begin with.1. Does God exist? Throughout history, in all cultures of the world, people have been convinced there is a God.
No. The book from which the quote was . . . . quoted Paul E. Little, [b]Know Why You Believe
has a religious slant into it, hence, UNRELIABLE.Second, this is an Argumentum ad populum. "If many believe so, it is so."
Third, Theravada Buddhists dont believe in a god.
Fourth, humans dont have an INNATE belief on the existence of a Creator or Higher Being. In order to be innate, a belief must either be present at birth or acquired without instructions. The new born baby is an atheist. There is no evidence that it INSTINCTIVELY believes in the existence of a god. When the baby reaches the age of understanding it is indoctrinated into the religion of its culture, Christian, Jewish, Moslem, Buddhism, etc. Belief in a god is the result of culture
Fifth, our ancestors, using their imagination, created gods, spirits and other supernatural agents to explain the unknown
2. Does God exist? The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.
Essential to recognizing design is identifying a purpose. However, a purpose can only be determined by first knowing the intentions of the designer. For that reason we must first know God's intentions before we can detect his purpose. And before we can know God's intentions we must first prove that he exists. Here is precisely where the argument from design breaks down. In order to posit a designer God the theist must begin by assuming as true the very thing in question, the existence of God. In logic this is known as "begging the question."
To put things more simply, god must be PROVEN TO EXIST FIRST before we could CLAIM that he's the designer of the Earth or anything.
3. Does God exist? Mere "chance" is not an adequate explanation of creation.
This is the same as number 2.
Second, we already dealt with the Jumbo jet analogy before. Here is the link: http://www.ebonmusings.org/evolution/tornado.html .
The link also has quotes from Fred Hoyle LAMBASTING creationists.
4. Does God exist? Humankind's inherent sense of right and wrong cannot be biologically explained.
Some moral precepts such as those which forbid killing and stealing are indeed universal. But are these precepts as absolute as they appear? Exceptions to the ban on killing include self defense, war, and capital punishment. In regard to stealing, god himself openly encouraged it in Exodus 3:22. In 1st Kings 22:21-23 god cooperates in a devious plot against Ahab, King of Israel. The plot is based on an outright lie. Anthropologists have found that different cultures deal with moral questions in many different ways. This serves to show that morality is neither objective nor absolute; it is subjective and conditional.
The truth is that good and evil exist independently not only of human opinion but also of god's will. Suppose, for example, god commanded that lying, stealing, and murder were now our moral duty. Does anyone seriously believe that these actions would somehow become morally acceptable in the eyes of most humans? If god did command such a thing, it would not make them good. Therefore, what is judged to be good or evil does not depend on what god commands. These absolutes derive directly from the human condition. They would exist much as they do today if god had never been heard of.
Viewing morality as the NATURAL OUTGROWTH of the human survival instinct, it is no longer necessary to posit god as an explanation.
5. Does God exist? God not only has revealed Himself in what can be observed in nature, and in human life, but He has even more specifically shown Himself in the Bible.
God exists because the Bible says so, and the Bible is the word of god . . . . Riiight!!!
First, this is obviously a circular argument therefore it has no credibility. In order for this argument to be taken seriously, the Bible must be absolutely correct and thoroughly consistent in all that it says. When objectively analyzed, however, the Bible is shown to be both inconsistent and unreliable.
6. Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God.
Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God according to the Bible.
The Bible is the word of god
Therefore, Jesus is god.Yeah this is just the same as number 5.
Most of these refutations come from Louis Cable's compilation. Check this link: http://home.inu.net/skeptic/god.html . [/B]
Are these your words Templares?
🙂
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Great answer.[B]As a former atheist
, Marilyn Adamson found it difficult to refute the continuously answered prayers and quality of life of a close friend. In challenging the beliefs of her friend, Marilyn was amazed to learn the wealth of objective evidence pointing to the existence of God. After about a year of persistent questioning, she responded to God's offer to come into her life and has found faith in Him to be constantly substantiated and greatly rewarding.
So True JIA ! 😉
All Athiests, Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Gays, Lesbians, Agnostics, Hindus, and other non-fundamental Christians are BAD people.
ALL Fundamental Protestant Christians are clean and moral people. 👆
JUST LOOK AT JERRY FALWELL, PAT ROBERTSON, and DICK CHENEY ! Squeaky clean GODLY MEN ! 😆
Re: Re: What Do You Believe God Would Be Like?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
A Spirit seated on a throne high and lifted up.Poised.
Regal.
Majestic.
But yet gentle, kind, loving, compassionate...a true Father.
Luminating.
Radiating.
Awesome...
Dwelling in unapproachable light.
Powerful.
All-wise.
Someone truly to behold.
The loving Father, God would say...
I LOVE YOU___________ (insert your name here) and I have been waiting for you.
🙂
Dude, find something to do....
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Great answer.[B]As a former atheist
, Marilyn Adamson found it difficult to refute the continuously answered prayers and quality of life of a close friend. In challenging the beliefs of her friend, Marilyn was amazed to learn the wealth of objective evidence pointing to the existence of God. After about a year of persistent questioning, she responded to God's offer to come into her life and has found faith in Him to be constantly substantiated and greatly rewarding.
Christians really need to get together and work out their stories. I mean, really, it is beyond a joke. One big group goes around telling people who ask the question "so, why doesn't God answer prayers" that "He hears the prayer, but doesn't act the way a person would hearing a plea, he answers them in mysterious ways which are hard for a person to see." Then another group is going around saying "Oh yeah, this Marlyn Adamson couldn't refute the veritable tide of prayers getting answered for their friend. Proof!"
If there was a wealth of objective evidence for God's existence I would believe he existed. There isn't. Sites and claims like this are, sadly, laughable out how very much they aren't examples of objective proof. And yeah, all Christians work it out - is God answering prayers in a verifiable way like some sort of divine sugar daddy (and if that is the case how come it is possible for us to ask "so, why aren't I seeing this any evidence of this?"😉 or is he working in mysterious ways where you really can't tell if he is answering them or not?
And why does God answer what he does? Apparently there are black children who go to bed every night and pray for God to send rain or food or anything to improve their lives and the lives of, oh, a few million other people, both Christian and not (cynical statement: of which the apparent verifiable answers are 0%) and then we have some overweight American lass getting up on some late night evangelists program to yammer on about how "Gawd!" heard her prayer about about some trivial and inane thing like "...So Betty Sue, my hair stylist, she thought she'd have to move back to New York, but I prayed hard and she got to keep her job here! Praise Gawd!"
Re: What Do You Believe God Would Be Like?
Originally posted by debbiejo
Curious........If you ever could meet what we say GOD....what do think him/her/it would be like?. And what do think IT would say to you when you cross over?
Everything in this world exist by causes and conditions. Every living beings(including humans), the stars and heavenly bodies undergoes the cyle of birth(appearance) and death(extinction). This is the true nature of life and the universe. We are part of this universal harmony and everlasting process. Everyhing in this world are ever-changing moment to moment in accordance with this universal Law- which the Law that causes change is eternal and everlasting process and we are part of this process...