Originally posted by Napalm
Muslims, Jews and many other reliegions are against gays and abortionists I dont see anybody bashing them.
Jews and Muslims are (as a whole adn historicly) very accepting people.
Originally posted by Tptmanno1
Their not trying to outlaw gay marrage!
I have no problem with people disliking it. its just when they try to affect others with their opinions (something christians do REALLY REALLY well)) that I get pissed off.Jews and Muslims are (as a whole adn historicly) very accepting people.
Muslims and Jews are accepting? Wow I guss the taliban didnt get that bit of info 🙄 And jews are even worse there section of the bible tells them to stone gays. All christians wanna do is convert them
1. Not Angelicans. Angelicans are not Protestant, as they did not branch off from the Lutheran church. Angelicans are plain crazy. Anglicans, notice the absence of the "e", are the Church of England, or "Angland", as its old name was, since they were ruled by the Angles. Anglicans, or Episciples as you might know them, are extremely like the Catholics, except the fact that they can divorce (Thank you Henry Tutor).
2. Did my original point not make it through your thick head, Tex?
Alright, here it is again
NOT ALL CHRISTIANS THINK THE SAME!!!!
For all your apparent righteousness, you fail to differenentiate between denominations.
I support gays and their persuit of happiness.
I am pro-choice.
I condemn the merging of church and state by Bush.
I hate Bush all together.
I am not a Creationist, and believe in Evolution.
I am the typical Pryesbyterian/Methodist/(north) Baptist/Congregational/Recreational Christian.
So do not generalize.
It was good god fearing American Christians that dragged the slaves out of Africa, initiated segregation, locked good Japanese/American citizens into prison camps during WWII, butchered Native Americans, limited the rights of women and are now greatly eroding the rights of homosexuals.
Everyone was good god fearing Christians back then, first off. Second off, although I know that it was wrong and condemn slavery, you must be objective, and look at it from the point of view of the Americans. It was a good way of making money. A very good way. Also, they saw it as liberating the slaves, not enslaving them. We were ignorant back then, but back then, everyone, besides the Africans, thought that they were all cannibals and that Africans were starving to death there, sinces it was "all desert land". Many of the people who owned/caught slaves were just trying to make a living, and they thought they were actually doing the slaves somewhat of a favor, and they thought it was Social Darwinism in the making.
When you watch Roots, dont just focus on the plight of the blacks, listen to what the whites say. That movie was not made to depict white people as evil people, and say "look at what they did! Isnt that horrible!!"(Which it was). It was meant to educate.
The southerners initiated segregation, and need I remind you that Protestants mostly reside in the north?
F.D.R. made that law, and he was hardly Christian. He was pressured, and when you think of the times, look at how the Japanese won battles before Pearl Harbour, you might understand that, although it was a rather harsh desicion, it was one that seemed necessary.
Tex, you cannot be bias when it comes to history. And you are probably the most bias person, besides JM and Napalm, that I have ever met. Be objective.
And for Spanish Inquisition, need I remind you that it was initiated by the most fanatical Catholic probably of all time? It was not just Jews and Muslims that suffered. Many so-called "good God-fearing" Christians were killed as well. The same was apparent in the Salem Witch Trials, and the Red Scare.
As for the Crusades, I will agree with you there. But again, religous fanaticals.
The rights of women had always been that way, and they had failed to question it until that era. Does that mean that I think women should be back in the kitchen making me pies? No. But again. Objectiveness. You must look at history through the prespective of a person in that historic time period.
Now. Although I dont know about Muslims, it states in the Torah that, until the Messiah(dunno how you spell it) comes, no one can be admicible to heaven. That is why, although this is left out in the Bible and mostly forgotten, Jesus decended into Hell. He did it to free the good souls of the Jewish people who had died up until that point. It is included in the Nostic, an ancient, almost dead branch of Christianity, Bibles, but the Catholics of old, whom I can confidently say were bastards, edited it out of their Bible, and then prosecuted the Nostics, for other reasons, however. But I accept this idea.
Evolution is only being removed from certain states. But its not just Creationist Christians who have a problem with it. You forget Jews, whom also believe in the Creation, and Muslims.
America is more culturally accepting? HA! America the most racist, prejudiced, sexist country in the developed world!
And what do you say to Iraq? Afganistan? China? India? Pakistan? Rwanda? Zimbabwae (or however you spell it)? The P.D.R. of the Congo? All of the Baltic countries?
Agreed, compared to most countries that are supposed allies, we are racist and sexist country. But we are most certainatly not the worst.
And don't get me started on atheists. You guys complain just as much as Catholics do.
"I support gays and their persuit of happiness.
I am pro-choice.
I condemn the merging of church and state by Bush.
I hate Bush all together.
I am not a Creationist, and believe in Evolution.
I am the typical Pryesbyterian/Methodist/(north) Baptist/Congregational/Recreational Christian."
Oh My ****ing God me too. 😛 No, really. 😄
Wow, from what I've read this place seems to be a breeding ground for the ignorant and imbecilic. I am Christian, although I doubt I'll ever be able to say what I am more specifically. I'm Native American but raised Anglican. Although I don't practise. I go to a Catholic School. It's a strange way to grow up but I can safely say I'm Christian.
Some of the things people are saying here are so...well, let's just say there's no point in fighting against it because it's a waste of time and energy. They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, I believe this is the same for idiots. I'm not saying you should all convert or anything, I'm just saying if people can't be accepting of others they don't deserve to be accepted into society.
I mean, I may not agree with homosexuality but I don't hate them. In fact, I know a few people who are. I don't despise sinners or anything, I tolerate them. I hope they change their ways. I don't ever force my beliefs onto others, or talk about them to those who don't ask about them.
Whatever, I feel like I've already wasted enough time here as this probably won't reach those who won't let it in.
Originally posted by Andrew McLeod
Wow, from what I've read this place seems to be a breeding ground for the ignorant and imbecilic. I am Christian, although I doubt I'll ever be able to say what I am more specifically. I'm Native American but raised Anglican. Although I don't practise. I go to a Catholic School. It's a strange way to grow up but I can safely say I'm Christian.Some of the things people are saying here are so...well, let's just say there's no point in fighting against it because it's a waste of time and energy. They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, I believe this is the same for idiots. I'm not saying you should all convert or anything, I'm just saying if people can't be accepting of others they don't deserve to be accepted into society.
I mean, I may not agree with homosexuality but I don't hate them. In fact, I know a few people who are. I don't despise sinners or anything, I tolerate them. I hope they change their ways. I don't ever force my beliefs onto others, or talk about them to those who don't ask about them.
Whatever, I feel like I've already wasted enough time here as this probably won't reach those who won't let it in.
I finally found someone that agrees with me
*Balkan, not Baltic, my bad.
As for your question, I dont think I've met one Christian who does believe in the Creation.
Why dont I? Because I simply cant bring myself to believe that fact.
How does it work? Perhaps now would be a good time to say that I'm not Confimed, and that I do not consider myself fully Christian, but rather a New Age Christian. A Christian with a Buddist mentology, some Nostic beliefs and a questioning/scientific mind. But my basis is in Christian Theology.
And why does this matter? I still dont see the problem with me defending Christians, even if I'm not one. Tex's argument is just like saying all Jews are wealthy buisness peop,e who care for nothing but money.
^Get your facts straight, cal, before making your argument.
Yes, they attack us. But those are just a small faction. I have various muslim, hindu, and even some shintoist freinds, and they are very accpting, kind people. I met my Muslim friend's, erm, not sure what his proper name is, but a minister type guy, and he was extremely nice.
You, again, are why people hate Christians and America.
Originally posted by Andrew McLeod
Wow, from what I've read this place seems to be a breeding ground for the ignorant and imbecilic. I am Christian, although I doubt I'll ever be able to say what I am more specifically. I'm Native American but raised Anglican. Although I don't practise. I go to a Catholic School. It's a strange way to grow up but I can safely say I'm Christian.Some of the things people are saying here are so...well, let's just say there's no point in fighting against it because it's a waste of time and energy. They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, I believe this is the same for idiots. I'm not saying you should all convert or anything, I'm just saying if people can't be accepting of others they don't deserve to be accepted into society.
I mean, I may not agree with homosexuality but I don't hate them. In fact, I know a few people who are. I don't despise sinners or anything, I tolerate them. I hope they change their ways. I don't ever force my beliefs onto others, or talk about them to those who don't ask about them.
Whatever, I feel like I've already wasted enough time here as this probably won't reach those who won't let it in.
Indeed. There are quite a few people on this thread generalizing Christians into one group. Yes there are some radical Christians out there, but there will be radical people in any group. Don't generalize all Christians into one group saying they are all against gays. It is against God's will, but no sin is unforgivable except damning the Holy Ghost. The people who bash Christianity can continue doing it to make themselves feel better about their beliefs, but us Christians can read it right in the Bible that we will be persecuted. So bring all you got at us, cause nothing you say will make me doubt the truth.