wow...you guys have taken this really far...i'm not sure if i believe in god or the devil, they both seem to be political forces used to skrew people into thinking that if they are perfect now, they will get something better later, when they shouldnt be freaking out over that, but rather enjoying the time they have now... no matter what happens later.
i've heard some people say that you can have your own religion, but if you dont believe in their's...your going to hell...but what if your religion doesnt involve heaven or hell...then would either god or the devil care if you did anything...(yes i know other people have asked this, but no one has answered it)...
Originally posted by Jackie MalfoySatan hates you. He doesnt care wether or not you Sin, he still hates you. In the same way that God loves you regardless of wether you sin or not.
Yea the devil does love it when you sin.Because you are going to the darkside instead of going to god.God likes it when you are holy and are good and religons.JM
originally written by frodo34x
The point I was geting at earlier is : I believe that if you don't convert to Christianity, you will go to hell. Because of this belief, I tell you about my beliefs in the hope that you won't go to hell.
I have nothing against anyone being Catholic, but how can you say that? I guess that means that everyone who doesn't believe in God (millions of millions of people through the ages) goes to hell? Come on! And, if it is true, doesn't the Bible say we will all be forgiven on our Judgement Day?
Frodo34x - It does say that God & his son love us all, and that if we ask forgiveness at the Gates of Heaven, we will be forgiven. Now, I agree that murderes and such are an exception, but besides that...
But you didn't answer my first question. Does that mean all of the people who don't believe in God (and there are more that don't over the years) all go to hell?
Ytaker
Humpty the whale.
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The devil dislikes you. This is because he is evil. Not good/evil, evil. Good people like good deeds because they are benefited by them, and feed the happiness of their consionce. Bad people dislike bad deeds because bad deeds do bad things to others. The Devil shows this by torturing people for eternity. He dislikes people, so he tortures them.
He is clever, and will gain no happiness from you being happy. So if you're massicistic, then he'll find a way around it. I believe that the "Newsground" proposed torture of having a fat guy fart right next to you in an enclosed room wouldn't be pleasurable.
Finally, to the tipsy person, if someone approaches God and asks for their forgiveness, they get it. He could have a relationship with God if he wanted.
i agreewith you
Good
Evil
Sin
Love
Hate
Devil
God
All word created by man to label some things.
A sin is only a sin to those who consider doing a particular thing is evil. Evil is only evil to those who consider something is evil. If you think the Devil is evil by your standards, then you are right. If you think he is good, then you are right. If you think he hates you, then you are right. Loves you? Maybe, but what does he love about you?
Stop thinking in this state of mind. The devil himself has taught you to think this way. There are things you should do and things you should not be doing. The things you should not be doing will eventually catch up to you on their own and you will pay the price for your actions. You do not need someone to tell you what is wrong, you have been made to know automatically from the day you are born. (if you believe that Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil then this is truth to you)
To me, the devil is the master manipulator. He's not a red guy with a pitchfork and a pointy tail sitting underground in hell working to cause you to sin. He is a short grey guy with no nose and black almond eyes sitting on top the matrix control program he has built around you. He has got many of you to talk his talk in your own language. Wake up, you're already living in hell and the devil is feeding off of your spirit daily. If you feel guilty about something you are doing, search until you find the source of what causes you to do that thing. If you really want it to stop, cut off that source from affecting youself.
"The devil feeds off of the guilt of the knowlege he put in your head"
God is Death itself - the end of all meaning. Now please stop believing in something that does not exist - the idea of a god is extremely primitive. Only the mind which cannot think for itself, believes in a god. Even if there is a god(I sure as hell hope there isn't) it would not make life any more meaningful or meaningless than it already is.