Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If that was true, then people would have to take responsibility for their own life. 😱
Whether the devil made someone do something or not doesn't take the responsibility away from the individual. The devil tells you to do something, the individual can CHOOSE to listen or ignore. That is where God holds man responsible.
Originally posted by KPrince
Whether the devil made someone do something or not doesn't take the responsibility away from the individual. The devil tells you to do something, the individual can CHOOSE to listen or ignore. That is where God holds man responsible.
Never,
there is no devil.
What ever you or I do, it is your or my responsibility. Even the idea is your or my responsibility.
The devil is something that christianisty made out of other religions, and cultures, it is a misinterpretation of them, every characteristic associated to the devil has its origin on other myths. If it was real it shouldn´t be a derivation of other pagan myths that christianity denies to hold any truth.
Originally posted by KPrince
"Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience" Ephesians 2:2
Jesus sad "The kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17:21) If, then, the kingdom of God is within it must stand to reason that God resides in his own kingdom and he is also within. If God is within your brother then when you see his face you also see the face of God. If God is within you then when you look in the mirror you also see the divine face. When you feel within with no illusions then you must be feeling the presence of God. The kingdom of God is in everyone. Some know it more then others....Do no judge as Jesus said not to. God is omnipresent.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Jesus sad "The kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17:21) If, then, the kingdom of God is within it must stand to reason that God resides in his own kingdom and he is also within. If God is within your brother then when you see his face you also see the face of God. If God is within you then when you look in the mirror you also see the divine face. When you feel within with no illusions then you must be feeling the presence of God. The kingdom of God is in everyone. Some know it more then others....Do no judge as Jesus said not to.
I'm not judging you, that is not the intention of the scripture, I was just quoting the scripture to back my argument, it was not directed at you at all.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Jesus sad "The kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17:21) If, then, the kingdom of God is within it must stand to reason that God resides in his own kingdom and he is also within. If God is within your brother then when you see his face you also see the face of God. If God is within you then when you look in the mirror you also see the divine face. When you feel within with no illusions then you must be feeling the presence of God. The kingdom of God is in everyone. Some know it more then others....Do no judge as Jesus said not to.
Whether the devil made someone do something or not doesn't take the responsibility away from the individual. The devil tells you to do something, the individual can CHOOSE to listen or ignore. That is where God holds man responsible. Originally posted by KPrince
I was just backing up my argument. The scripture was not directed at you. Sorry, I should have indicated that. 🙁
Originally posted by KPrinceI know you were not judging me....But if god is omnipresent, then god is in everyone and everything visible and invisible...there is no place where god is not...
I'm not judging you, that is not the intention of the scripture, I was just quoting the scripture to back my argument, it was not directed at you at all.
Originally posted by debbiejo
I know you were not judging me....But if god is omnipresent, then god is in everyone and everything visible and invisible...there is no place where god is not...
ok, are you saying that if God is everywhere, including in us, then the devil cannot be in us? Correct me if I'm wrong.
God is in us and in everything...For scripture say there is no place where god is not...Satan is only a description of a negative action...There are polarities in the universe...negative and positive..god wants us to grow towards the positives..some may call it the fruits of the spirit...If there was a Satan, or devil a person of sorts, which there is not..it's all based on old mythes...then if you die where are ya gonna go Hell?
Hell as been translated from these words:
Sheol” the pit or grave.
“Gehena” valley of Himmon south of Jerusalem where garbage was
dumped and burned.
Much of the bible is historical and metaphorical.
Satan (שָׂטָן Standard Hebrew Satan, Latin Sátanas, Tiberian Hebrew Śāṭān; Aramaic שִׂטְנָא Śiṭnâ: both words mean "Adversary
Originally posted by debbiejo
God is in us and in everything...For scripture say there is no place where god is not...Satan is only a description of a negative action...There are polarities in the universe...negative and positive..god wants us to grow towards the positives..some may call it the fruits of the spirit...If there was a Satan, or devil a person of sorts, which there is not..it's all based on old mythes...then if you die where are ya gonna go Hell?Hell as been translated from these words:
Sheol” the pit or grave.
“Gehena” valley of Himmon south of Jerusalem where garbage was
dumped and burned.Much of the bible is historical and metaphorical.
Satan (שָׂטָן Standard Hebrew Satan, Latin Sátanas, Tiberian Hebrew Śāṭān; Aramaic שִׂטְנָא Śiṭnâ: both words mean "Adversary
😄 😄 clapping 😄 😄
Originally posted by debbiejo
God is in us and in everything...For scripture say there is no place where god is not...Satan is only a description of a negative action...There are polarities in the universe...negative and positive..god wants us to grow towards the positives..some may call it the fruits of the spirit...If there was a Satan, or devil a person of sorts, which there is not..it's all based on old mythes...then if you die where are ya gonna go Hell?Hell as been translated from these words:
Sheol” the pit or grave.
“Gehena” valley of Himmon south of Jerusalem where garbage was
dumped and burned.Much of the bible is historical and metaphorical.
Satan (שָׂטָן Standard Hebrew Satan, Latin Sátanas, Tiberian Hebrew Śāṭān; Aramaic שִׂטְנָא Śiṭnâ: both words mean "Adversary
You are very, very right about Hell. I do not believe in Hell as a place of torment, it is Sheol--the grave. When a person dies, they are buried, they do not remember anything or think anything. "His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish." Psalm 146:4