on that bit where you have said that psp is selling double, well of course they are, that is just for the last week, the DS has already been out for about 4 months, so most people in Japan already have one, however the software sales for the PSP are doing really badly in comparision, if you do a ratio of hardware to software sales for the PSP and the DS then you would find out that the DS is doing a hell of a lot better than the PSP in that department, and in the long run, we will see that less and less people will be buying the games, so the companies making the games will be making less, so they wont make as much.
DS isnt selling software at all because their isnt any software at all. Everybody who is playing the DS right now are generally playing GBA games, but give it time and the DS will have alot of software. It was shipped to early.
I cant really see the PSP staying around for very long compared to the DS. I think they're be a huge PSP boom at the very start but it will slowdown in the end. Unless casual gamers will want to pay 250-300 bucks for it, I cant see it staying around. Well, thats not including people who will have to buy it again because it broke.
Oh you know Sony, dont think it will be different than its consoles.
What do you mean by that. That they will be different about their consoles. I went through three, yes three PS2's. the first i had three months before it stopped working. I called the company and they sent me a new one. I only had to pay for the shipping of my broken one. This happend again with the replacment, i had it for 6 months and it wouldnt even turn on, sony sent me another one. I had to pay shipping again, but i got a two year warranty on this one.
I actually think the PsP will be different. The consumers of the PsP and the Ds will be dominated by two different demographics. One will get the money from there parents. the other will get the money from there paychecks. Assuming that the PsP is the solid well rounded little system it is i would say that it will keep a loyal following as long as it stays consistant in the game department. Gamers will pay the prices. the capability of the PsP will be very attractive and i think word of mouth will secure a decent ride.
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What I meant was that if Sony keeps to their principals of crappy systems that break down, then thier hardware sales will increase. Why do you think PS2 is still selling well. Its all the people who had broken ones buying them again.
True, PSP is very attractive with its features but people who have good jobs generally have other hardware that does the same thing. Will they go buy it for the features, I dont think so. I think they're buying them because its Sony and they loved the PS2.
Only time will tell what system lasts longer.
In the end, Nintendo's rumored next project for the Gameboy, will kill both of them.
Well, obviously I'm talking about the general public.
Well, yes people are going to buy it for the games. Why wouldn't they?
What I meant was that if they're going to buy an handheld, they're going to buy it because its Sony and they loved the PS2 and not know if the games are better than the DS's games.
Yep., it does but I dont take how good the console/hardware on opening month.
The Dreamcast sold extremely well in the beginning but didnt do anything afterwords.
But I feel the PSP will do well anyways unless something major happens. For example if the defects werent actually fixed.
But I dont believe that the PSP will rule the handheld world like it does now in the console's. Sooner or later, Sony wont have control of the videogame market.
Originally posted by Smasandian
What I meant was that if Sony keeps to their principals of crappy systems that break down, then thier hardware sales will increase. Why do you think PS2 is still selling well. Its all the people who had broken ones buying them again.
Do you truly believe that? You mean to tell me it has nothing to do with the diverse selection of video games that are constatly being won over by gamers alike? Everytime i go into a video store. Ps2 has four walls of video games. Xbox has two, gamecube has one. the people are always hovering around the sony section, with a few people standing near xbox games. It is like this everytime i go into a video store. Xbox cannot even begin to dream to give out quality games that sony does. After owning all three major consoles, i am just saying what i have observed through expereince. I'm not trying to grab ahold of sony's balls. I just like the games they produce. If xbox had as many fun games i would be an avid box player, but xbox is more of an arcade experience.
Just because nintendo has held the reins of the hand held world doesnt mean they wont drop them. everyone thought nintendo would be king of home consoles after conquering atari, and outselling sega year after year. That all changed when sony spanked nintedo's N-64. So if Sony was the company to put an end to Nintendo's throne of home consoles, it seems fitting that they could be the ones to tear them down off of there hand held high horse. PsP has over a hundred games in development. The PsP is an entirely new way to expereince hand held systems. The screen and graphics are the best to date for hand held systems. I forsee nintedo yet again being left with the title of being to childish in it's games. I guess arguing really isnt worth anything, all we have to do is wait. But as of yet i am waiting to see anything special from the Ds. Maybe once they actually release some games i will be proven worng.
" The PsP is an entirely new way to expereince hand held systems"
What, it has nice graphics?
There is nothing new with the PSP. Its a bloody Cd player with great graphics. Nothing else on that system is entirely new.
Everybody is using the excuse that because Sony beat out Nintendo back in the day, its automatically assumed that they will do the same in the handheld business. That's not true. Anything can happen.
Sony took over Nintendo in terms of the powerhouse for console and they might do it also with the PSP, but remember if they could do it too Nintendo, whats stopping anybody to do it too Sony. Sony can be in the same position 4-5 years from now and considering how shoddy thier construction is, I cant say this isnt farfetched.
All it takes is Microsoft or Nintendo to buyout some of Sony's powerhouse games like GTA, Final Fantasy and others and then people eventually get fed up buy rebuying the same console and boom - Sony's in trouble. All top dogs eventually fall.
Originally posted by Smasandian
" The PsP is an entirely new way to expereince hand held systems"
What, it has nice graphics?
There is nothing new with the PSP. Its a bloody Cd player with great graphics. Nothing else on that system is entirely new.Everybody is using the excuse that because Sony beat out Nintendo back in the day, its automatically assumed that they will do the same in the handheld business. That's not true. Anything can happen.
Sony took over Nintendo in terms of the powerhouse for console and they might do it also with the PSP, but remember if they could do it too Nintendo, whats stopping anybody to do it too Sony. Sony can be in the same position 4-5 years from now and considering how shoddy thier construction is, I cant say this isnt farfetched.
All it takes is Microsoft or Nintendo to buyout some of Sony's powerhouse games like GTA, Final Fantasy and others and then people eventually get fed up buy rebuying the same console and boom - Sony's in trouble. All top dogs eventually fall.
People on this thread have been using the fact that nintedno has been the best at hand held systems so they will be the best against the PsP. they have been using that as a credible argument to, so why is the fact that sony spanked nintendo any less of a credible argument? The PsP Is a entirely new expereince for the fact that it has done everything everyone has TRIED to do in the past. Sony has succesfully blended several forms of entertainment together. all the while keeping the games the driving force. Name any other hand held system that alowed you to watch movies, download Mp3's upload and download photo's and images, and play video games with other people who have the PsP
Ps2 has many more Extremely popular exclusives than just GTA. Xbox cannot create a fun game more than once a year. Sony pumps them out reguarly. I could care less who the fu-ck has the funnest games, who ever has them, i will own there system. and Sony has them all.
All systems have those games where people buy a system soley for a game. Xbox has splinter cell and halo. Gamecube had resident evil zero, and now 4. PS2 has GT, and GTA. these console sellers are not what determine the life or popularity of a system. Consistancy is still the most important aspect in gaming. The only reason the xbox is doing anyhting at all is beause of it's far better online capabilities. I truly believe that. Halo 2 was xbox's last creative burst. what was it before that? Fable...which was a lie, and even before that Kotor and these games come one at a time. The Ps2 has just had numerous exclusives such as shadow of rome, ratchet and clank, jak3, GTA,MGS3 and are now looking towrds god of war, GT4, dark watch. see the pattern. Xbox is hoping for jade empire and another splinter cell to keep them alive. It's all about the games, and i truly believe that PsP will shine through with a console type experience in your hands, which will be appealing to many people.
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Name any other hand held system that alowed you to watch movies, download Mp3's upload and download photo's and images, and play video games
The nintendo DS currently has a add on that enables you to do that, its called the play yan, anyway, the fact of the matter is that if people really are that bothered by graphics on a handheld, then in a years time the psp is going to fail to the new nintendo gameboy, (i think it may called something like the evolution, but am unsure). because that it going to have graphics far superior to the PSP, there are also rumours flying around that it will actually be able to play gamecube games, and if this is the case, then as soon as the new GB comes out it is going to have hundreds of different games already available, and since the gamecube has been out for a while, the games for it will be dirt cheap, but as i say, it is just a rumour.
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Do you truly believe that? You mean to tell me it has nothing to do with the diverse selection of video games that are constatly being won over by gamers alike? Everytime i go into a video store. Ps2 has four walls of video games.
The reason that they have so many walls is that there have been hundreds more games for it released, compared with the xbox and the GC, and if we are honest, they have excatly always brought out the highest quality games, most the ones are pieces of crap really...
Originally posted by AnGeLiz0r
The nintendo DS currently has a add on that enables you to do that, its called the play yan, anyway, the fact of the matter is that if people really are that bothered by graphics on a handheld, then in a years time the psp is going to fail to the new nintendo gameboy, (i think it may called something like the evolution, but am unsure). because that it going to have graphics far superior to the PSP, there are also rumours flying around that it will actually be able to play gamecube games, and if this is the case, then as soon as the new GB comes out it is going to have hundreds of different games already available, and since the gamecube has been out for a while, the games for it will be dirt cheap, but as i say, it is just a rumour.The reason that they have so many walls is that there have been hundreds more games for it released, compared with the xbox and the GC, and if we are honest, they have excatly always brought out the highest quality games, most the ones are pieces of crap really...
I diddnt know about the extension for the Ds. I havent heard of it. Either way. PsP is the first one to incorperate all of the features in one package without buying additional periphials. I actually heard the same rumors about the next gameboy, which sickens me.Instead of releasing a new gameboy every 6 months, why not just do it right the first time? It would be nice if it could play Gc games, but fit the mature audience does bite on the hand held world then i think PsP will have a long life. I am doubtfull though, that the older audience the PsP is geared towords will bite.
About sony releaseing more games, and them being crap. That same thing can be said for the small amount of games that microsoft releases. Most games on xbox, are the same quality as the below standard games on Ps2. nintendo usually hits the mark on their games, but is targeted for a certain audience. Just because i dont like the more childish games for nintendo,doesnt mean i can call them trash because i dont like the style, but i am older than 12. I highly doubt that any gameboy sytem will offer games with the content that the PsP will. The creater of the PsP said the driving force behind the concept was to make a handheld Ps2. which i think is why it could work, if the older gamers decide they want to play video games in bed or while riding on the bus line. you know, the PsP may not be as powerfull as the PS2, but it is about as powerfull as dreamcast, which means the games will be as expensive as new Xbox and Ps2 games. This makes me want to say, maybe the market isnt ready for such micro power. I personally wont play PsP, i would never play a dulled down Ps2 game and pay the same price, when i could sit on my couch and play on my huge t.v screen.
well as regards to them bringing out a gameboy every 6 months, the DS was never meant to be the next gameboy, they said quite alot before it even came out it wouldnt be the next gameboy, or a replacement for the gameboy, and they made it clear another gameboy would still come out, and that would work inconjunction with there new hand held console. I do understand what you are saying about the PSP having more adults games for it then the nintendo consoles, but from what i have heard nintendo are starting to work more closely with game developers to try and bring out more adult games it increase the amount of people who would want the DS and there consoles and to try and combat the PSP. hense the release of the play yan