Pre-Crisis Superman vs. Post-Heroes Reborn Savage Hulk

I thought I gave the proof already, but oh well. Hulk has the "potential" for limitless strength, which is nice to have, but doesn't help when you're fighting someone who's already far beyond Hulk's usual level of strength. Lifting a mountain? Please, Superman lifts those for fun. Punching an asteroid twice the size of Earth (which it shouldn't be a asteroid at that point, it should be a planet, and it would be impossible for someone Hulk's size to destroy it with one punch with the pieces destroying everything around him, but hey, he did it regardless)? Superman plays with planets like they were marbles. Also, he can blow out stars, and destroyed an entire distant solar system with a single sneeze. And you expect Hulk to be able to fight something like that, with all of Superman's other abilities added? I don't think so. And yeah Flash is fast, but he doesn't have Superman's superior strength to back it up. And, as everyone said, Pre-Crisis Superman WAS super-intelligent, if you didn't know. He learns human and alien languages in seconds, builds devices in seconds, and intellectually competes with Lex Luthor, who pretty much compared to Dr. Doom and Reed Richards back in the day. I like Hulk, but he's too one sided. Strength alone won't beat someone with strength, speed, flight, heat vision, super/freezing breath, etc. Pre-Crisis Superman's too strong, too smart, and too versatile for Hulk. I wouldn't dare put any of my favorite Marvel characters against Pre-Crisis Supes, cause I know better.

👆 What he said.

pre-crisis=Superman's super-powers are by and large, extraordinary magnifications of ordinary human abilities. Just as an ordinary man can hurl a baseball, Superman can hurl an entire Planet. Just as an ordinary man can see across the room, Superman can see across the universe.In February 1961, after Mr. Mxyzptlk has loosed a cloud of magic sneezing powder on Metropolis, Superman finds himself forced to give vent to a super-sneeze that literally destroys an entire distant solar system.

Originally posted by Tron
I thought I gave the proof already, but oh well. Hulk has the "potential" for limitless strength, which is nice to have, but doesn't help when you're fighting someone who's already far beyond Hulk's usual level of strength. Lifting a mountain? Please, Superman lifts those for fun. Punching an asteroid twice the size of Earth (which it shouldn't be a asteroid at that point, it should be a planet, and it would be impossible for someone Hulk's size to destroy it with one punch with the pieces destroying everything around him, but hey, he did it regardless)? Superman plays with planets like they were marbles. Also, he can blow out stars, and destroyed an entire distant solar system with a single sneeze. And you expect Hulk to be able to fight something like that, with all of Superman's other abilities added? I don't think so. And yeah Flash is fast, but he doesn't have Superman's superior strength to back it up. And, as everyone said, Pre-Crisis Superman WAS super-intelligent, if you didn't know. He learns human and alien languages in seconds, builds devices in seconds, and intellectually competes with Lex Luthor, who pretty much compared to Dr. Doom and Reed Richards back in the day. I like Hulk, but he's too one sided. Strength alone won't beat someone with strength, speed, flight, heat vision, super/freezing breath, etc. Pre-Crisis Superman's too strong, too smart, and too versatile for Hulk. I wouldn't dare put any of my favorite Marvel characters against Pre-Crisis Supes, cause I know better.

Tron, thanks for replying before I got a chance to respond to Supessucks. As usual, Tron, you are right on the money with your posts. When I stated that Pre-crisis Supes was too fast and too strong for Hulk, I was making an extreme understatement.

Yeah, I know the feeling. I like Hulk and all, but Pre-Crisis Supes is ridiculously powerful, and way, way too much for Hulk. Hell, way too much for even War Hulk. Yeah, I said it. What y'all gonna do about it?

Originally posted by Tron
Yeah, I know the feeling. I like Hulk and all, but Pre-Crisis Supes is ridiculously powerful, and way, way too much for Hulk. Hell, way too much for even War Hulk. Yeah, I said it. What y'all gonna do about it?

Oooooooooooooooooohhh, snap!!!!!!!!!!! Them fighting words!!

theres a limit to how close bodies of significant size can be close to one another, the rochet limit i believe b4 the bigger tears apart the smaller. wow guys comics arent scientific lol. also marvel write on a far grander scale, in their world who knows what hulk would be doing,? in marvels supes certainly wouldnt sneeze out solarsystems or whatever gay nonsense hes done, this is the main gap to bridge on this subject

Supremthor have you noticed all you do is Copy and Paste from a site on your precrisis posts?

who the heck is Reborn Savage Hulk???????????

damn so many hulk superman threads i see

Originally posted by Tough Guy
theres a limit to how close bodies of significant size can be close to one another, the rochet limit i believe b4 the bigger tears apart the smaller. wow guys comics arent scientific lol. also marvel write on a far grander scale, in their world who knows what hulk would be doing,? in marvels supes certainly wouldnt sneeze out solarsystems or whatever gay nonsense hes done, this is the main gap to bridge on this subject

I have no clue what you're talking about in your first sentence, but oh well. And true, Superman wouldn't be destroying solar systems with a sneeze in Marvel, they made sure that they got away from sh*t like that though. But, this is Pre-Crisis Superman, in the DC universe, where he CAN get away with anything like that, so there's not much more that can be said about it.

Originally posted by lightaxe
Supremthor have you noticed all you do is Copy and Paste from a site on your precrisis posts?

Yeah, he's pasting from the site I put up a few pages back. Makes sense, better that than try to type out examples of Supes doing crazy sh*t.

Originally posted by Tron
I have no clue what you're talking about in your first sentence, but oh well. And true, Superman wouldn't be destroying solar systems with a sneeze in Marvel, they made sure that they got away from sh*t like that though. But, this is Pre-Crisis Superman, in the DC universe, where he CAN get away with anything like that, so there's not much more that can be said about it.

I actually know what he is talking about in the first sentence. didnt know ToughGuy knew real science!

the grammar in his first sentence seems rushed and not well-thought out, I can't understand it either.....

jesus guys, dont you know your basic science? Every planet, moon, Star, and other heavenly body objects has Gravity! The bigger the body the stronger gravitational pull!

That is why the Moon revolves around the Earth because the Earth's gravity keeps it from floating away! The Roche Limit is a very short distance away from the planet where the Gravity is so strong that if an object such as the moon is revolving around a larger object such as the Earth and somehow gets inside the Roche Limit distance, it will be ripped to shreds.

If that happends than Earth would be like Saturn! Saturn's rings is nothing more than some of its moons coming to close to Saturn and just got destroyed and creating those beutiful rings.

Originally posted by x_danny_x
jesus guys, dont you know your basic science? Every planet, moon, Star, and other heavenly body objects has Gravity! The bigger the body the stronger gravitational pull!

That is why the Moon revolves around the Earth because the Earth's gravity keeps it from floating away! The Roche Limit is a very short distance away from the planet where the Gravity is so strong that if an object such as the moon is revolving around a larger object such as the Earth and somehow gets inside the Roche Limit distance, it will be ripped to shreds.

If that happends than Earth would be like Saturn! Saturn's rings is nothing more than some of its moons coming to close to Saturn and just got destroyed and creating those beutiful rings.

Don't take this the wrong way, but what does that have to do with the fight, cause you just lost me.😐

same here, its like you morphed from fanboy to add 3x to both sides on us....you just posted a high-school level form of physics...

It's not that serious...calm down....*hands danny a beer*

I'd hate to see your laws of physics debates...Even Darwin would go "what the hell is wrong with you its just a battle between a green beast and a man wearing red underwear!! sheesh"

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dude, pre-crisis supes would kill the whole universe and thier freaking momma with a swift back hand. let alone hulk. hulk would be forced to watch his own skull scatter like roaches when the lights come on.

I was wrong when I titled this post, Pre-crisis Superman could have any power he wanted to have. Hulk would not be a fair match for him. I meant post-crisis Superman. I don't understand the joke at the end of the post, manjaro, but you have a point.

supes is also a super genious. even post crisis. just like impulse he has a photo graphic memory. he reads things at super speeds and reatins all the info permanently. as he has been shown reading a whole library, plus reading a whole medical library to know how to perform complex procedures.

the same goes for every subject you can imagine he has done this.( that was pre -crisis though) the latter day superman's intellect is explained the same way annhilus is.(the whole helmet thing) superman took the artifact that was placed in his space pod and once he activated it, it telepathically(radio, or electro-telepathy, one of those two) informed him of the entire hostory of krypton and of his father's work and technological prowess.

Also, depending what what writer's stuff you read the artifact is presented as a hardlight hologram of Jorel narrating it to superman, and even interactive. answering all his questions to a degree that would seem like he was really there as a real person talking to supreman. other times it is depicted as something brainiac cooked up before he went rouge(seeing as how he was suposedly the information minister of krypton b4 he got ambitious.