Originally posted by Aku
Well what really annoys me is that Police spend loads of money in order to try and cut down the amount of drugs problems in the UK but they should be helping people who are in real danger. Like people being mugged or shoplifters.
Or murders, domestic violence, even gang wars.
yeah, but the key is to not need a substance to enjoy life, because without that substance what are you...nothing but an empty shell of lost emotions looking back on what ounce was. Your memory is shot, your reflexes are going to stop working for you, and most importantly- Now listen up all you druggies DRUGS KILL YOUR EQUILIBRIUM. Then your shot for life. it is all down hill form there. No one ever just uses socially, it becomes a life style. Drugs are bad for the soul. They always ALWAYS come back to haunt you later in life, don't believe me...Smoke it up buddy.
I don't use drugs for a recreational purpose. I don't use them coz I need to. I don't even use THEM, in a plural sense.
I took Mushrooms and do on occasion because I chose to.
I don't need them, I have stopped taking them for long periods of time and not needed or wanted to go back until a year or two after.
Like I said, Drug use and abuse are two different ball parks.
-AC
your actually going to tell me that the one doesnt lead to the other. You know, the world doesnt revolve around you alpha. I am glad that you had a hap trippy time on a mushroom . However, 80% of the time ,drug usuage always leads to some kind of drug abuse. I am sorry if i wasnt technical in my last post, but i wasnt talking about you, i was referring to drugs as a whole. I have dropped acid and smoked countless joints. I have seen the lives it destroys. There is no good in drugs. A drug is a drug. All in the same ball park buddy. Acid doesnt enhance the mind, but confuses the mind.
You must not be very prone to addiction AC. You're lucky. My grandfather and father were both alcoholics and my dad was addicted to pot for years. He's clean now besides cigarettes so that's good but it took a lot of his life and most of my childhood for him to get there. Substance abuse basically runs in my family so by doing anything like that I'm pretty much chancing it. I've already done pot and alcohol but I try not to do anything too frequently.
Drugs... droolio
I was hooked on heroin for years. I'm talking age 13 to 19 here. There isn't a drug out there that I haven't used. But I've been clean for the past 6 years (I'm 25 now). I'm proud of myself. I got the chance to turn my life around and I did.
I still smoke weed, drop acid, 'shrooms, angel dust... stuff like that. For recreational purpose. But I don't touch the hard stuff.
Whatever anyone else wishes to do where drugs are concerned, that's their decision not mine. Plus, I couldn't care less. It's fairly easy to judge and condemn someone based on their past mistakes though, especially if you're some spoilt, middle-class kid who thinks not being allowed to buy those spiffy designer jeans is the end of the world.
No, I'm not bitter. 😬
Originally posted by Angie79
Whatever anyone else wishes to do where drugs are concerned, that's their decision not mine. Plus, I couldn't care less. It's fairly easy to judge and condemn someone based on their past mistakes though, especially if you're some spoilt, middle-class kid who thinks not being allowed to buy those spiffy designer jeans is the end of the world.No, I'm not bitter. 😬
I agree indeed.
It is much easier to judge - but its what people do, unfortunately.
"your actually going to tell me that the one doesnt lead to the other. You know, the world doesnt revolve around you alpha. I am glad that you had a hap trippy time on a mushroom . However, 80% of the time ,drug usuage always leads to some kind of drug abuse."
Then why doesn't smoking 80% of the time lead to drug abuse?
I'm speaking for me and no one else.
-AC
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
your actually going to tell me that the one doesnt lead to the other. You know, the world doesnt revolve around you alpha. I am glad that you had a hap trippy time on a mushroom . However, 80% of the time ,drug usuage always leads to some kind of drug abuse. I am sorry if i wasnt technical in my last post, but i wasnt talking about you, i was referring to drugs as a whole. I have dropped acid and smoked countless joints. I have seen the lives it destroys. There is no good in drugs. A drug is a drug. All in the same ball park buddy. Acid doesnt enhance the mind, but confuses the mind.
Just because you and some people you know have had bad experiences with drugs doesn't mean that that is the rule. Some people feel like experimenting...do so...then decide it's not for them and move on...never to dabble again. True, some people experiment and then can not break out of the cycle of taking drugs, but that says more about the kind of person they are, not the drugs...
it doesn't say a damn thing about that person. I haven't had bad experiences on drugs, but i have seen what it has done to other people and realize what it will do to my body. It is an ever growing epidemic. Not just a few people who had bad drugs experiences. You are belittling the effect drugs have on the mind and body. All forms of drugs suffocate the brain in some way or another. Changes neurological effects over your body, and alters perception. That sound healthy?
Originally posted by Syren
clapping I agree with AC, but it's widely accepted that BF's generalisations are just his way of dealing with life in a non complicated fashion, something I wish I was capable of.
My generalisations are usually correct for the most part. However there are exceptions to every rule.
Point is - There are far more idiots using drugs then smart reasonable people who know when they've had enough and know when to give it up. My highschool was filled with morons who did drugs just because it was cool and in, and the next day in school after doing drugs they'd go around bragging about. These people are stupid, and it's how the vast majority of casual drug users act, which makes the vast majority of them....yes you guessed it, stupid.
Never said ALL who use drugs are stupid. Just a massively large amount.
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
yeah, but the key is to not need a substance to enjoy life, because without that substance what are you...nothing but an empty shell of lost emotions looking back on what ounce was. Your memory is shot, your reflexes are going to stop working for you, and most importantly- Now listen up all you druggies DRUGS KILL YOUR EQUILIBRIUM. Then your shot for life. it is all down hill form there. No one ever just uses socially, it becomes a life style. Drugs are bad for the soul. They always ALWAYS come back to haunt you later in life, don't believe me...Smoke it up buddy.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean the government has the right to waste my money punishing people for minor drug offenses without any evidence that they are causing harm to anyone else. People should have the right to do what they want with their own bodies, stupid or not.
"It is an ever growing epidemic."
Why are you talking about drug use like it's a disease? Please understand the difference between use and abuse. It's crucial to this thread.
"All forms of drugs suffocate the brain in some way or another. Changes neurological effects over your body, and alters perception. That sound healthy?"
Altered perception is good and bad depending on who's perceiving and what they're perceiving.
Have you ever tried mushrooms? If not, you are in no place to say all drugs suffocate the mind. How can you have any ground to speak on the effects of something you've never been involved in? You can't. The fact that I have taken Mushrooms multiple times is proving your theory wrong. I have taken a drug that supposedly suffocates the mind and kills your equilibrium, yet I still aced all my exams and continue to function just as well as anyone else if not better. I'm not saying me having no bad times on drugs equates to there being an IMPOSSIBILITY of bad times on drugs, nor am I promoting the use of drugs, just showing you that it's a grey issue. Not a black and white one.
If I saw everyone I knew crash a car or a motorcycle, it wouldn't mean motorcycles are all bad and always crash. If I had that opinion and took the chance to ride one safely and responsibly, my opinion would change.
Bottom line to me is this: Until you have tried a drug such as mushrooms, you are in no strong stance to be telling someone who has, that they have nothing but negative effects.
-AC
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
it doesn't say a damn thing about that person. I haven't had bad experiences on drugs, but i have seen what it has done to other people and realize what it will do to my body. It is an ever growing epidemic. Not just a few people who had bad drugs experiences. You are belittling the effect drugs have on the mind and body. All forms of drugs suffocate the brain in some way or another. Changes neurological effects over your body, and alters perception. That sound healthy?
It's a general truism of all things that people are affected by them differently. One person can experience awe at the sight of a remote island untouched by the processes of 'development'. One person can experience the same sense of awe when taking in New York, Taipei, Hong Kong, Tokyo et al. The different settings of the same experience are based on that individual's fundamental nature. This can be applied to drug useage. Some people when they smoke ganja become paranoid and introverted, whereas others experience a profound sense of happiness and well-being. If they smoke the same weed, then the only difference is in their psychological make-up. Drugs are not bad, but perhaps they are not good for you.
To add a little contradiction into the mix...I don't think marijuana is a drug, anyway...Neither are mushrooms...But my sentiments remain the same.
I think the real evil lies in the people who think they can tell others what is good and bad, rather than letting the individual come to their own conclusions.