Does God have a right to judge us?

Started by Capt_Fantastic16 pages
Originally posted by PrinceofBlades
If you ever get curious and decide to pick up the bible, read the psalms. Forget the everything else and read the psalms. And Job. Yeah, psalms and Job. It paints you a perfect picture of God.

Healthy advice. Christians should try doing the same. It's too bad they won't. You can't pick and choose your religion. That is, unless of course, you don't realize that man made religion, and not the other way round.

and he sacrificed others for his cause rather that sacrificing a part of him for another's.
your god sacrificed for his cause as well

Originally posted by finti
your god sacrificed for his cause as well

Yeah, killing His only son so that we wouldn't have to burn in hell was all for Him...

Yeah, killing His only son so that we wouldn't have to burn in hell was all for Him...
and those sacrificed during the flood and Sodom and Gomorrah?

Originally posted by finti
and those sacrificed during the flood and Sodom and Gomorrah?

Generally, when one deserves one's fate, it is not considered a sacrifice.

Originally posted by finti
and those sacrificed during the flood and Sodom and Gomorrah?

They wernt sacrifised, God was was angry and punished them. As for the flood, God was so dishearted by his deccision, that he vowed never to do it again. And God never brakes his promises.

Originally posted by PrinceofBlades
They wernt sacrifised, God was was angry and punished them. As for the flood, God was so dishearted by his deccision, that he vowed never to do it again. And God never brakes his promises.

One rarely feels guilty for doing the right thing, so if His actions were just, why did He feel so disheartened?

he should have forseen his failure and taken appropriate messures (if needed) and NOT murder people who got screwed by him with getting the sin

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
One rarely feels guilty for doing the right thing, so if His actions were just, why did He feel so disheartened?

Because he loved them; but he is a just God so he had to punish them.

He should of just left it at plants....

They wernt sacrifised, God was was angry and punished them
thank you , you just more or less supplied to what I posted earlier. Cause if your god was angry and punished them then their punishment was the sacrifice.

originally posted by finti
your god sacrificed for his cause as well

Because he loved them; but he is a just God so he had to punish them
in other words he sacrificed them for his cause

Originally posted by finti
thank you , you just more or less supplied to what I posted earlier. Cause if your god was angry and punished them then their punishment was the sacrifice.

in other words he sacrificed them for his cause

Let me fill you in on something. And I apologize i hadn't mentioned this earlier. Everything is always about God, deal with it. He is the creator of the universe, he is the dude who rules it all. He has every write to kill things if he wants, but doesn't. In the temple Christ was angry and overturned tables and cursed. He was angry, but it was a just anger. God was angry at the people and it was a just anger. We live to serve God and honor him, just like you live to serve and honor authorities (parents, teachers, bosses, etc.) You are obidient to them and thus fullfill THEIR will, not yours. And you learn more and more from these teachers of life as you grow older. And then their will come a period in your life where you either realize that all this time when you thought you were just following directions and fullfilling THEIR will, they were doing God's. If you think that their's nothing after this life, well than that's a boring life. Granted don't mess up here and make it up in the next.

But the funny thing about it is God has no police to make you do things. He has no hidden cameras to spy on you to make sure what your doing is right. Everything you do, he patiently waits for. No rushing, no forcing, no pushing, no nothing. You do things by your own free will. And when you think that God is an attention whore, you only do it because you don't like the way he acts. And I'm sorry to say, but this isn't about you. It's about him, so deal with it.
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Everything is always about God, deal with it. He is the creator of the universe, he is the dude who rules it all. He has every write to kill things if he wants, but doesn't.
my point exactly, so according to your alls belief about this god of yours is in my mind not a just god. Due to his actions when it came to the flood and the destruction of S&G

God doesn't pick and chose on our feeble attempts to understand anything...He is bigger then we can comprehend, bigger than any belief, And if god made everything, it would takes His essence to create it, Why then would he condemn his own creation and in fact part of Himself.

Doesn't make since.

Originally posted by finti
my point exactly, so according to your alls belief about this god of yours is in my mind not a just god. Due to his actions when it came to the flood and the destruction of S&G

Get this straight: God's way is always good for us, but Our way is not always good for God. God did it out of love for us. "It hurt him more than it hurt you."

A Deity is already complete and needs nothing from anything else, otherwise, it wouldn't be a real Deity.

Originally posted by debbiejo
A Deity is already complete and needs nothing from anything else, otherwise, it wouldn't be a real Deity.

Huh?

If you think about what a GOD really is...You will have to admit that IT/Him needs nothing from ITs creation to feel complete. Deities don't hurt, get their feelings hurt or need anything else to feel complete. It already is!

Originally posted by debbiejo
If you think about what a GOD really is...You will have to admit that IT/Him needs nothing from ITs creation to feel complete. Deities don't hurt, get their feelings hurt or need anything else to feel complete. It already is!

He didn't need us to practise anger. We hold anger. Anger is a neutral. If you allow anger to become hate does it become bad. If you use anger to learn and forgive, then is it good. But anger is never used as an instrument of rage. God didn't rage in the flood, but he was so saddend at the lose of his creations that he swore to never do it again. When Christ got angry at the temple. He didn't allow it to become rage. He simply turned a few tables, dropped a few coins, left and forgave.

Originally posted by debbiejo
God doesn't pick and chose on our feeble attempts to understand anything...He is bigger then we can comprehend, bigger than any belief, And if god made everything, it would takes His essence to create it, Why then would he condemn his own creation and in fact part of Himself.

Doesn't make since.

Gos is also just and must punish those who disobey him. The sin in Sodom and Gomorrah was so rampant that he had to judge them.