Originally posted by Bardock42
Facts are facts to all of us the same. That#S why they are facts. If they were subjective they weren't facts.
Well, I'm saying there IS a God. You're saying there likely isn't one.
We have a debate, no? However, to not drive a point home and allow you the freedom to feel the way you do, I shall not go further. And as such, leaves me in the uncomfortable situation of knowing that I don't know if should attempt to try and convince you otherwise.
Originally posted by BobbyD
Well, I'm saying there IS a God. You're saying there likely isn't one.We have a debate, no? However, to not drive a point home and allow you the freedom to feel the way you do, I shall not go further. And as such, leaves me in the uncomfortable situation of knowing that I don't know if should attempt to try and convince you otherwise.
Well, I am right with saying there likely isn't one.
And you might be right with saying that there is a God. Dunno. But if there is a God, then there is a God regardless of my disbelief in it, right?
Originally posted by BobbyD
Was this for me or Bardock? 😕
To you, as your post was immediately above mine.
Originally posted by BobbyD
Well, I'm saying there IS a God. You're saying there likely isn't one.We have a debate, no? However, to not drive a point home and allow you the freedom to feel the way you do, I shall not go further. And as such, leaves me in the uncomfortable situation of knowing that I don't know if should attempt to try and convince you otherwise.
You could use the same argument to say that "well, if you don't believe the holocaust happened, thats ok, because people can believe whatever they want."
There is a point where your ignorance superceeds your right to believe something.
This is NOT to say that everyone has to have my exact views, but there is a WIDE range of views that are consistant with FACT.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, I am right with saying there likely isn't one.
...semantics to me. You are entitled to say so, yet I'll disagree.
Originally posted by Bardock42
And you might be right with saying that there is a God. Dunno. But if there is a God, then there is a God regardless of my disbelief in it, right?
The statement above, as you have said it is correct; though both of us know you feel otherwise.
We could dance around the topic all afternoon. You know how I feel; and I know how you feel about it. I'm agreeing with your logic, but not with your stance, if that makes more sense.
Originally posted by BobbyD
...semantics to me. You are entitled to say so, yet I'll disagree.The statement above, as you have said it is correct; though both of us know you feel otherwise.
We could dance around the topic all afternoon. You know how I feel; and I know how you feel about it. I'm agreeing with your logic, but not with your stance, if that makes more sense.
Yeah, but you will be wrong. And, well, yeah, it is semantics...all this is..we can't really communicate without semantics, can we?
No, not at all, if there is a God my disbelief will not change it. I stand by that. But I still know it is unlikely that there is a God (at least one as in the Bible) and I tend to believe that there isn't one.
But my logic is my stance....that was what I was talking about.