Smoking

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The way I see it, smoke if you want to.

I don't see the point in paying an outrageous price for an addiction that doesn't satisfy a craving enough in comparison with the severe damage it does.

You smoke with possibilities of cancer (many kinds, mainly lung), chest and breathing problems not to mention hygene. Ultimately, possible death. Not to mention others in your household or presence being affected by it.

All that for a "buzz" that isn't anything more than something that KINDA calms you down.......a bit. When you can do that alone by just relaxing.

Smoking= Most pointless thing ever since solar powered flashlights.

-AC

Again... in your opinion. I smoke because I want to. I spend my money, I use my lungs and I make my choices. Where, exactly, is it written that I have to justify it to you? Or anyone else for that matter? You are welcome to your opinions and they are, as always, very well validated. But for goodness sake, smokers aren't ignorant to the dangers, we don't need them pointed out at every opportunity by those who refrain.

I agree with Syren on this (despite my objection to smoking) is her money and her lungs and no one should tell her otherwise. If she wants to quit is her decision. Her and any smoker doesn't have to justify her choice. We're talking about cigarettes not some dangerous drug. And yes smokers are NOT ignorant to the dangers. And some of them do in fact cut back on the amount of cigarettes they puff.

Although I agree with majority of what you said, my opinion is different on few things.

Number one - if its smokers decision to smoke, and it should be allowed, then a cocain user should be allowed to take cocain if he choses so.
Also, there is such a thing as second hand smoking, while user under heroin or cocain does not damage other people around him/her.
People on heroin and cocain are not violent, because those are stimulants.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Although I agree with majority of what you said, my opinion is different on few things.

Number one - if its smokers decision to smoke, and it should be allowed, then a cocain user should be allowed to take cocain if he choses so.
Also, there is such a thing as second hand smoking, while user under heroin or cocain does not damage other people around him/her.
People on heroin and cocain are not violent, because those are stimulants.

Are you serious?? People on cocaine are not violent? Honey, please.... statements of that calibre should only be made when the knowledge is factual.

if its smokers decision to smoke, and it should be allowed, then a cocain user should be allowed to take cocain if he choses so.

That has got to be the most deluded logic I have heard in a long time. The reason cocaine is illegal is because of the ensuing reactions in mind and body. Nicotine does NOT cause these reactions.

Milla, are you drunk?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Although I agree with majority of what you said, my opinion is different on few things.

Number one - if its smokers decision to smoke, and it should be allowed, then a cocain user should be allowed to take cocain if he choses so.
Also, there is such a thing as second hand smoking, while user under heroin or cocain does not damage other people around him/her.
People on heroin and cocain are not violent, because those are stimulants.

most people who get sick off second hand smoke get sick because they dont have the genetics to tolerate chemiclas so don't just blame the smoker, blame your parents for shit genes

and people on herione and cocaine are violent....whether its a depressant or stimulant is pretty much irrelevent

Originally posted by Syren
Again... in your opinion. I smoke because I want to. I spend my money, I use my lungs and I make my choices. Where, exactly, is it written that I have to justify it to you?

Go read the very first line of the post I wrote. The one that says "The way I see it, smoke if you want to."

Stop leaping before looking.

-AC

Originally posted by Syren

Milla, are you drunk?

If she is I want pics posted! 😛 😉

nono You always do that though... make a non commital comment in order to lull us into a false sense of security and then you pound in there, with your true opinion, and no one stands a bloody chance 😬

Originally posted by Syren
Are you serious?? People on cocaine are not violent? Honey, please.... statements of that calibre should only be made when the knowledge is factual.

if its smokers decision to smoke, and it should be allowed, then a cocain user should be allowed to take cocain if he choses so.

That has got to be the most deluded logic I have heard in a long time. The reason cocaine is illegal is because of the ensuing reactions in mind and body. Nicotine does NOT cause these reactions.

Milla, are you drunk?

No, I am not drunk. And before you throw such remarks get your facts straight. I do projects and assesments on drugs at least once every semester and i have, it seems much clearer idea about the drugs than you.

Cocain and Heroin itself DO NOT produce violence. People die from those drugs due to IMPURITIES in the manufactured cocain and heroin NOT drug itself. Read on it before you hold me a lecture.

Why are there imurities in drugs? Because they are illegal!

Nicotine causes WORSE reactions than cocain or heroin. Impurities cause illness. Would you like me to repeat that or you? Ok here we go, I'll udnerline it as well -

Impurities in the manufacturing of these drugs cause illness and death. Second biggest killer of cocain and heroin users is AIDS

I'll repeat it once more for you if you like?

Nicotine damages you in its purest form, cocain and heroin dont!

Heroin is a stimulant - stimulatns do not make you violent being STIMULANTS!
Heroin is a derivative of freaking morphine!! Use your logic - what does morphine do? Make you violent? Think, sister, think!

Cocain - stimulat extracted from coca bush. stimulant

Woah!! Its not THAT difficult!

Originally posted by WindDancer
If she is I want pics posted! 😛 😉

catwoman I'll see YOU in the bat cave!!

batmancatwoman

Made me violent. What am I, an exception? No matter how many books you read and how many lectures you attend, you can never begin to preach me about the effects of drugs. I'll use my own experiences and first hand knowledge before I listen to a goddamn student.

Oh, and Milla? You really don't have to be so patronising, I'll listen to your views just as readily even if you're talking respectfully, honest.

Originally posted by Syren
nono You always do that though... make a non commital comment in order to lull us into a false sense of security and then you pound in there, with your true opinion, and no one stands a bloody chance 😬

Why are you telling me what I do?

I posted my opinion which was quite blatantly smoke if you want to.

I then posted why I believe smoking is shit. If you think you don't stand a chance, don't take the risk and then complain when you get pummelled.

Stop jumping in the deep end because you don't like thinking before you reply.

-AC

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Heroin is a stimulant - stimulatns do not make you violent being STIMULANTS!
Heroin is a derivative of freaking morphine!! Use your logic - what does morphine do? Make you violent? Think, sister, think!

Since when did stimulation equate to non violence?

-AC

SHORT-TERM EFFECTS OF COCAINE USE (there are alot more effects but i'm just showing the ones that lead to violence)
paranoid thinking, erratic or violent behaviour, tremors, uncoordination, , hallucinations, LONG-TERM EFFECTS
High-dose, chronic users, who alternate cocaine "binges" with crashes, may show mood swings, restlessness, extreme excitability, suspiciousness, hallucinations and delusions

let me say this....would you rather hang out at a bar where people smoked or at a crackhouse?

wuTa out!!

"let me say this....would you rather hang out at a bar where people smoked or at a crackhouse?

wuTa out!!"

More chance of health suffering in a bar where people smoke and drink than in a crackhouse. Unless they of course, are smoking it.

-AC

AC ~ I thought stimulation constituted as an energetic/emotive rise. Cheers.

Syren, I'm sorry, I wasn't smoking-bashing, I was just expressing my opinions.
I still stand by what I originally said, but let me make this clear that even if you do smoke, you're not a bad person. Sorry, Syren, if you thought I was saying that.

Telpz... it's fine honey, I was reading everyone wrong yesterday.... I was having a really bad time bag I've just read some of my posts over the last week and I feel awful... I've been such a pompous biatch.

"AC ~ I thought stimulation constituted as an energetic/emotive rise. Cheers."

I agree.

Can mean many things though.

-AC

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
No, I am not drunk. And before you throw such remarks get your facts straight. I do projects and assesments on drugs at least once every semester and i have, it seems much clearer idea about the drugs than you.

Cocain and Heroin itself DO NOT produce violence. People die from those drugs due to IMPURITIES in the manufactured cocain and heroin NOT drug itself. Read on it before you hold me a lecture.

Why are there imurities in drugs? Because they are illegal!

Nicotine causes WORSE reactions than cocain or heroin. Impurities cause illness. Would you like me to repeat that or you? Ok here we go, I'll udnerline it as well -

Impurities in the manufacturing of these drugs cause illness and death. Second biggest killer of cocain and heroin users is AIDS

I'll repeat it once more for you if you like?

Nicotine damages you in its purest form, cocain and heroin dont!

Heroin is a stimulant - stimulatns do not make you violent being STIMULANTS!
Heroin is a derivative of freaking morphine!! Use your logic - what does morphine do? Make you violent? Think, sister, think!

Cocain - stimulat extracted from coca bush. stimulant

Woah!! Its not THAT difficult!

Cocaine is a stimulant, yes. I thought Heroin was a depressant, and morpheine DEFFINATELY is, since it calms you down.