Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I will remind you that he admitted he was (jokingly perhaps), he asked if what he did makes him a paedophile (which technically, as stated and proved but ignored by you, it does). I said he's NO DIFFERENT. However by definition, lots of people are. The definition isn't what it takes to convict but it doesn't mean it is an eraseable fact. It stands.-AC
a perfectly sane pedophile...we have a new oxymoron
why cant you just accept that it's very name and definition is based in psychiatry. a pedophile is one who is sexually attracted to children. its the fact that they look young and underdeveloped that turns them on.
its not about some guy who got screwed over because he forgot to do a background check on his date. news flash: plenty of teen girls look like they are in their 20s, and wont say otherwise. the court could slam that guy and label him/her a pedophile. so let us separate law and technicalities from psychiatry.
"its not about some guy who got screwed over because he forgot to do a background check on his date. news flash: plenty of teen girls look like they are in their 20s, and wont say otherwise. the court could slam that guy and label him/her a pedophile. so let us separate law and technicalities from psychiatry."
As it has been said, the definition is what the law is based upon. I didn't think it was and my debate was still strong enough. Victor studies law, and brought it to light that the law is based on the definition that any sexual attraction toward an underage girl (notice it doesn't state how underage) is an act of paedophilia.
"why cant you just accept that it's very name and definition is based in psychiatry."
You claimed it was always down to having some kind of a mental disorder. You also seem to not believe it counts regardless of if you're underage by a little, it does.
-AC
I'm not going to lie... I would nail Hilary Duff in a second if she offered, regaurdless of her age, I would nail the Olsen Twins, regaurdless of age, Lindsay Lohan would get ripped apart. It's not my fault they dress like sluts and look good. If they don't like it they shouldn't be purposely dressing in a sexy manner.
"I'm not going to lie... I would nail Hilary Duff in a second if she offered, regaurdless of her age, I would nail the Olsen Twins, regaurdless of age, Lindsay Lohan would get ripped apart. It's not my fault they dress like sluts and look good. If they don't like it they shouldn't be purposely dressing in a sexy manner."
Absolutely is it in no way your FAULT and I entirely agree that they do push things in the way the put themselves across. However by law and definition, that is considered an act of paedophilia. That is ALL I'm saying. I'm not even claiming that I believe everyone who looks at a girl under 18 (within age) is a paedophile. My first post against what ARC said was just of the hypocricy surrounding those type of feelings. I know and have seen so many males verbally tear into a guy convicted of paedophilia or something, when they see no problem in just saying it. When in fact by saying it, you are doing exactly as that guy did, minus the carrying out of the act.
-AC
"When in fact by saying it, you are doing exactly as that guy did, minus the carrying out of the act."
You can't be a pedofile unless you act on those feelings. Someone saying "yeah I'd nail that" about Hilary Duff is not the same or even remotely similar by use of any valid logic as a person who goes and screws a 5 year old child. Pedofilia = the act of engaging in sexual intercourse with a person under age, not saying "Yeah I'd **** lizzie macgiure". Big difference. Words don't equal pedofilia, actions do.
And besides, there's two types of pedophilia, there's pedophilia by technicality, which would be if you screwed a 16 year old girl who is able to make her own decisions about such a matter, and then there's blatant pedophilia which is pretty much 100% inexcusable, which would be someone screwing a young child who can't make decisions on their own and doesn't know any better.
"I'm not even claiming that I believe everyone who looks at a girl under 18 (within age) is a paedophile. My first post against what ARC said was just of the hypocricy surrounding those type of feelings."
To ARC: The above bit is all I put in because I got tired of everyone having the misconception that I think everyone who looks at a girl under 18 is a convicted paedophile and the scum of the Earth. I've debate with Backfire before, the fact that it's him makes no difference to me. I'm sure he either knows that or doesn't care, like I don't care.
"You can't be a pedofile unless you act on those feelings. Someone saying "yeah I'd nail that" about Hilary Duff is not the same or even remotely similar by use of any valid logic as a person who goes and screws a 5 year old child. Pedofilia = the act of engaging in sexual intercourse with a person under age, not saying "Yeah I'd **** lizzie macgiure". Big difference. Words don't equal pedofilia, actions do."
I agree for most of that, but my actual point that everyone is missing is this: By definition and law, although not convictable (for some reason), someone under legal age being the object of sexual attraction is an act of paedophilia. Intercourse is not mentioned in the definition.
"And besides, there's two types of pedophilia, there's pedophilia by technicality, which would be if you screwed a 16 year old girl who is able to make her own decisions about such a matter, and then there's blatant pedophilia which is pretty much 100% inexcusable, which would be someone screwing a young child who can't make decisions on their own and doesn't know any better."
Again I agree for most. As I did with people who have said the same thing before you. The point is as Vic said, Biology is of no connection. Time also. My point was always of the hypocricy surrounding the comment ARC made and people who make comments like that. My point was also as stated above, regardless of what you do or don't do, act out or don't act out, by definition you are committing an act of paedophilia by saying such things. I never said it was ever as bad as committing the acts in person, I said that in ARCs case he has little or no difference because it is, as said, by definition. And the definition is where the law is derived from.
-AC
Alright, I know this all has already been said, but AC, it looks like you’re outnumbered; Go Chris! *tooty thingy* 😑
And from a 14-year-old girl’s standpoint--
I do not believe that anyone who's thinks an underage girl is hot is being a pedophile. I know that I dress slutty to attract a guy’s view, (for the most part anyways). Even if they’re thinking about sex, I still don’t think that qualifies as pedophile material, just as long as they’re not pursuing it, or on their minds at all times.