are YOU a pedofile?

"I do not believe that anyone who's thinks an underage girl is hot is being a pedophile. I know that I dress slutty to attract a guy’s view, (for the most part anyways). Even if they’re thinking about sex, I still don’t think that qualifies as pedophile material, just as long as they’re not pursuing it, or on their minds at all times."

Complete and utter turd talk I'm afraid. As stated above, my point was in the definition of the word. But that's been done to death and hopefully people UNDERSTAND it now.

Secondly, the fact that you are a self-proclaimed slutty dresser isn't detrimental to a man's ability to be a paedophile my dear. If they are thinking about having sex with you, you are 14 and it's on their minds. They are having a sexual attraction with an underage girl which again, by definition, is an act of paedophilia. You have absolutely NO way to know if it's on their mind at all times. You could ask them and they could say no, so what do you do then? Appears you didn't quite think before posting to me.

"Alright, I know this all has already been said, but AC, it looks like you’re outnumbered; Go Chris! *tooty thingy* "

You say that like outnumbered equates to defeat. It does not. I've been in "debates" far worse than this when it comes to being outnumbered and it doesn't bother me. Considering two things:

A) Everyone who has posted something to me has either misinterpreted to me.

or B) Gone completely off my original point and ignored it.

You people wonder why I have an ego when you go an toot toot whoever is opposing me in a debate. As if I'm some giant to be cut down and you've finally found your David to my Goliath. That's how YOU make it seem.

The only people to challenge what I've been saying is Innkeeper and even he/she (unaware of gender) didn't understand what I was saying. Backfire isn't challenging what I'm saying. He's voicing what he believes and I'm doing the same. Think before you post in an otherwise healthy thread. It's quite silly that every time I'm in a debate, those who can't stand up to me in one, rally behind whoever is debating with me at the time. Tsk, tsk.

-AC

Originally posted by Nienna
Alright, I know this all has already been said, but AC, it looks like you’re outnumbered; Go Chris! *tooty thingy* 😑

And from a 14-year-old girl’s standpoint--

I do not believe that anyone who's thinks an underage girl is hot is being a pedophile. >>>>>I know that I dress slutty to attract a guy’s view, (for the most part anyways).<<<< Even if they’re thinking about sex, I still don’t think that qualifies as pedophile material, just as long as they’re not pursuing it, or on their minds at all times.

****ing crap, I can't throw a rock without hitting an absolute moron.

think about it, you claim that anyone who could look at...say hillary duff and say "i'd hit that" is a technical pedafile...since he thought of it...

but answer me this...but by your logic, if i had a fantasy about a girl, would it not be TECHNICALLY rape if she didnt consent?

"And people wonder why pedophilia and rape and shit like that happens. What a tard."

Exactly. Then they complain "But I only dressed to attract his view. I didn't want him to overpower me and rape me because he was sexually attracted to me because I dressed like a ****".

-AC

Originally posted by PVS
think about it, you claim that anyone who could look at...say hillary duff and say "i'd hit that" is a technical pedafile...since he thought of it...

but answer me this...but by your logic, if i had a fantasy about a girl, would it not be TECHNICALLY rape if she didnt consent?

Women don't consent to you in your own FANTASIES? Wow. Sad, sad man.

No, it wouldn't be rape, becuase rape is having sex with the person against their will. I see where AC is coming from, you don't have to preform the act to be a pedophile. Just like you don't have to be in a relationship to say you love someone. It's just a name for a thought. You however, do have to preform the act to be convicted.

lol no i mean the actual woman

"think about it, you claim that anyone who could look at...say hillary duff and say "i'd hit that" is a technical pedafile...since he thought of it..."

The word claims that. Who am I to you know, defy the definition of a word in the English language?

"but answer me this...but by your logic, if i had a fantasy about a girl, would it not be TECHNICALLY rape if she didnt consent?"

Rape is by definition and by my terms, an ACT that is carried out first and foremost. It is forced sexual intercourse. It isn't "A thought of forced sexual intercourse." Paedophilia by definition, as stated maaaaaaaaany times, is an attraction to underaged people specifically.

How many more times am I gonna have to explain that to you? Genuine question.

-AC

no no no

rape by law is simply nonconsentual sex.
thats the law. "i didnt want to have sex"
rape is not always violent. an example would be those 'perfectly sane pedofiles' you spoke of. they were most likely convicted of stachetory rape (if the girls were over like 16) and im sure they could have brought up an allout sexual assault charge. point is they have the word "rape" tagged to their record. so TECHNICALLY they are rapists.

Originally posted by PVS
no no no

rape by law is simply nonconsentual sex.
thats the law. "i didnt want to have sex"
rape is not always violent. an example would be those 'perfectly sane pedofiles' you spoke of. they were most likely convicted of stachetory rape (if the girls were over like 16) and im sure they could have brought up an allout sexual assault charge. point is they have the word "rape" tagged to their record. so TECHNICALLY they are rapists.

Now you are mixing things together. Thinking about rape, and preforming stachetory rape is NOT the same thing.

"rape is not always violent. an example would be those 'perfectly sane pedofiles' you spoke of. they were most likely convicted of stachetory rape (if the girls were over like 16) and im sure they could have brought up an allout sexual assault charge. point is they have the word "rape" tagged to their record. so TECHNICALLY they are rapists."

Rapists are sex offenders. Sex offenders can also be paedophiles considering the age of the victim.

"No no no. Rape by law is simply non consentual sex. That's the law: 'I didn't want to have sex'"

So a girl has to state "I didn't want to be paedophile'd"? What do you mean "No no no rape is non consentual sex"? That's what I said it was. You are forgetting the difference however:

Rape: A Crime. An act. However it is only a crime because it's an act. Thinking about rape is not illegal. Rape is an acted crime.

Paedophilia: Sexual attraction to underaged youngsters. That is by definition, a crime. Before it's acted.

-AC

"Now you are mixing things together. Thinking about rape, and preforming stachetory rape is NOT the same thing."

no, you misunderstand...*sigh* it was just a quick joke,
but now i have to spell it out 😛

in your fantasy she consents, but not the actual woman. like you didnt call her up and say "would it be ok if i had a fantasy about you?"

"To ARC: The above bit is all I put in because I got tired of everyone having the misconception that I think everyone who looks at a girl under 18 is a convicted paedophile and the scum of the Earth. I've debate with Backfire before, the fact that it's him makes no difference to me. I'm sure he either knows that or doesn't care, like I don't care.
-AC"

I know. 😛

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It is forced sexual intercourse. It isn't "A thought of forced sexual intercourse." Paedophilia by definition, as stated maaaaaaaaany times, is an attraction to underaged people specifically.-AC

as i said, you blur written rational laws and irrational human behavior in such a simple manner. you cant categorise someone who says "i'd tap hillary duff" right alongside some sick freak who's turned on by children.

Originally posted by PVS
"Now you are mixing things together. Thinking about rape, and preforming stachetory rape is NOT the same thing."

no, you misunderstand...*sigh* it was just a quick joke,
but now i have to spell it out 😛

in your fantasy she consents, but not the actual woman. like you didnt call her up and say "would it be ok if i had a fantasy about you?"

No, I know that's what you meant, and what I said still applies. Thinking about it and acting on it are two completely different things. Having a fantasy is just that, a fantasy. If you needed to ask permission, then the whole fantasy is ruined.

"you cant categorise someone who says "i'd tap hillary duff" right alongside some sick freak who's turned on by children"

*Sigh*

Read one of my above posts. The one in which I stated I don't do that. My point has always been that by law and definition, you are no different from someone who says it and then acts on it. Chances are, they thought the same thing too. You took this way beyond what my posts put across and then ran with it, instead of stopping to see what I was saying.

-AC

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
No, I know that's what you meant, and what I said still applies. Thinking about it and acting on it are two completely different things. Having a fantasy is just that, a fantasy. If you needed to ask permission, then the whole fantasy is ruined.

well honestly i wouldn't know...i never tried it 😂
im not trying to sell that idea, dont worry. im just pointing out
that a persons thinking cant be put under the scrutiny of the law in reality, so whats the point of trying to tag people and call them a 'technical pedophile'?

ok here ya go, ill wind it up, cause im tired (and got a bad cold 🙁 )

a pedophile follows a pattern of behavior, its not just some legal tag. its important that this is not blurred, not for the sake of stachetory rapists, but for the sake of those who have a REAL pedophile living in their neighborhood. people raising families dont give a shit about the 25 year old guy dating the 17 year old girl. they want to know who they have to keep their kids away from.

"people raising families dont give a shit about the 25 year old guy dating the 17 year old girl. they want to know who they have to keep their kids away from."

True of course. However just because they don't give a shit, doesn't mean the law and definition does not apply, convictable or not. Which is my point.

-AC

I was reading this paragraph from Wikipedia:

"A person is not necessarily a pedophile simply because he can be sexually aroused by children. Pedophiles must have their primary sexual attraction towards them. There is evidence that at least a quarter of all adult men may have feelings of sexual arousal in connection with children (Freund & Costell 1970, Hall et al. 1995, Quinsey et al. 1975). Note that pedophilia can be diagnosed solely in the presence of fantasies or sexual urges on the subject's part — it need not involve sexual acts with children."

As for Laws.....well, those laws are made by Lawmakers. And if the Lawmakers are pedophiles, guess what changes they'll do to the law to make it more favorable to them? Same with lawyers that defend a pedophile in courts.

"Note that pedophilia can be diagnosed solely in the presence of fantasies or sexual urges on the subject's part — it need not involve sexual acts with children."

Exactly my point. It need not involve sexual acts with children. You can't say rape need not involve sexual acts with a woman. You CAN say paedophilia involves sexual fantasies and urges.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"Note that pedophilia can be diagnosed solely in the presence of fantasies or sexual urges on the subject's part — it need not involve sexual acts with children."

Exactly my point. It need not involve sexual acts with children.

-AC

Again, someone can be twisting something here. Just becasue they are laws or basic definitions it doesn't mean is correct. Remenber that before a crime is committed someone has plan the crime inside their minds.