FF4 VS these 4 xmen i chose

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THANKS!! (but keep it on the down-low -- we don't want THIS thread closed too . . .)

damn, i really was enjoying that best debates thread . . .

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Maybe someone should choose four new X-Men to face them.

Yea, there must be some combination of mutants that can beat those sons of b!tches

jk XMX 😄

Originally posted by Wynndar
Yea, there must be some combination of mutants that can beat those sons of b!tches

jk XMX 😄

😠 those sons of bithches can go batkick themselves....

😆 lol nah....If you give me any non-telepathic members and no iceman...id say F4 wins...but in this particular thread...X-men win.....

How about this random team:

Husk
Morph
Cannonball
Psylocke (current TK)

cannonball is what makes it tough....not sure about Pys TK abilities, but torch would increase CB powers if they came in contact.....

Where did u get that Krang pic?

I googled Krang then edited with paint. 😄 Krang owns all!

I love krang!!

I still have the old toons! they ruled!!

X-Men win...

Reset! The X-men should be omega iceman, omega jean(no p. force), night crawler, colossus. F4 sould be H.T. ,I.W., M.F., Thing. (No power switch). Imo even w/o p. force x still wins.

On another thread (Iceman vs. - who can take him?) they established that IW forcefields -created by bending light- wud hav no effect on Jean's telekenesis or Iceman's cryokenesis.U might wanna chek that thread out!

So, coz of that I'd have to give it to the X-men coz (again in another thread) Iceman can drain HT's KE b4 he goes supernova, with help from Jean slowing his movement down, and just stop him, same w/ evry1 else even invisible women w/ forcefield. Then when they're all basically standing there the X-men can just pound them so...

IMO X-men take this

Might as well make this Jean vs. Fantastic Four.

Alone, she still curbstomps all of them in the first nano-second of the fight.

So, X-men win.

I know. Even if she didn'e use her phoenix level powers, her omega level telekinesis and telepathy is still very powerful. But same with sue.

sue is powerful yes....powerful enough for Jean and iceman? no....

iceman alone can take this, he's virtually indestructible. he can render HT's powers useless, if he takes away all the themal energy or freeze reed and snap him. Sue cant do anything to actually harm IM. Jean doesnt even need to step into the fight.

x-men take it and i resent an earlier remark that said all juggernaut fanboys think the only way hulk is strong is to be mad. I don't, but i know it is how he increases his strength beyond its normal levels where as juggernaut just needs to focus more for his connection to cyttorak to strengthen him.

I actually think the FF can tae this. I remember an issue of X-men where Bobby was a disemobied head and couldn't reform himself because there was not enough moisture in the air. If thats the case I feel that then the torch beats him.

Colossus vs Thing? I think that would be a stalemate. Nightcrawler vs Mr Fantastic? Nightcrawler can't hurt him physically but Reed has a hard time catching him. Many ppl underestimate Reed, but with his brillant mind and his being nearly impervious to physical injury he is much more dangerous than people imagine.

Jean is the X-Factor here, with her telepathy she could probably take down the FF. W/o it? Sue takes her out.

Plus the FF has written the book on teamwork. Sue and Johhny could just do that thing (can't remember the name) where she puts some of Johhny's concentrated plasma into a field and puts it into a target. If they get this off on Jean then she's out and the FF wins this round.

Look at my sig....press the link...be AMAZED at what Bobby can do, also the event your talking about happened in "hell" do I doubt theirs much moisture their anyways, but he can just yank it out of a person, which he did to a demon that shrivelled up and died.