Holocaust Memorial Day

But its true most a lot of jews died because of the really bad conditions not because they were exterminated. But that makes no difference they were killed and it was the worst thing ever done in history. I hate that this happened in my country ionly 60 years ago. It is the sickest thing ever done to a group of people

"But its true most a lot of jews died because of the really bad conditions not because they were exterminated."

jesus christ can we just get this straight

it was ALL extermination. where the hell is logic here?

the conditions were STRUCTURED for mass murder.

it was intended for them to starve and die from disease etc.

Originally posted by Napalm
I am not dening that hitlers crimes were wrong

It wasn't just Hitler's crimes but also his followers. Even today if someone was to give power to the neo nazis they'll do the same thing as Hitler did. That's why is important that the law restricts them. Following me so far?

Well did you stop reading my post after that sentence? Thats exactly what I said. God you like to twist around people's words, don't you?

no, you make it as if the deaths were circumstantial and a result of neglect and not purposeful starvation and diseasing.

i read your post just fine. no twisting here.

before this goes further, i KNOW that you are not some nazi lover.
but i will still drill through any warped logic on this matter that i witness.

BY using the word KILL I think I was implying that it was not circumstancial if that is not the case I beg you to forgive my poor english .

ok, then you accidentally made two contradicting statements.
so long as you dont believe in that contradiction, no biggie.

Ojk I klnow it is off-topic but I want to say that. Its not a contradiction, they died of the poor conditions and this were made by the nazis exactly to do that. therefore the term Killing is appropriate.

"Ojk I klnow it is off-topic but I want to say that. Its not a contradiction, they died of the poor conditions and this were made by the nazis exactly to do that. therefore the term Killing is appropriate."

...as is the word 'extermination'.

"But its true most a lot of jews died because of the really bad conditions not because they were exterminated"

i fail to understand why this cant be grasped...unless extermination and mass killings are not the same? 😕

Yeah you are right with extermination I meant shooting or burning or gasing them, while in some way the bad conditions are something elöse, killiong non-the-less. But you got what I meant didn'T you?

i fail to see the point.

are you saying that the figures on how many people were killed and HOW they were killed are blurry? if this is the case, im sure you are correct.

farther than this, i cant see any point to such a statement.

I don't want to make a point I am just saying think Napalm is right in saying that a lot of jews were killed in that way. I don't really know whats the point though.

A lot of Jews WERE killed in that way. Unfortunately, he also says 'very few' jews were gassed. That's way wrong.

I think he's trying to say that he used the wrong word... he's not English, right Bardock?

Anyway, as far as I am concerned upon reading Napalm's statement about there being only 'a few' intentional gassings, or whatever... does it really need to be a massive amount to incite some goddamn empathy? Jeez, regardless of how many people died, the point is there was the intention to eliminate an entire culture.

Yeah thats true, but I am not trying to make a point I amjust saying what I think happened.

What you think happened really doesn't cut it... there's enough evidence of what happened without your opinion adding a scratch to general knowledge.

Originally posted by Syren
I think he's trying to say that he used the wrong word... he's not English, right Bardock?

Anyway, as far as I am concerned upon reading Napalm's statement about there being only 'a few' intentional gassings, or whatever... does it really need to be a massive amount to incite some goddamn empathy? Jeez, regardless of how many people died, the point is there was the intention to eliminate an entire culture.

It matters in that the means the Nazis chose to pursue that policy was gassing, yes. Saying very few died that way denies the Nazi's policy.

I agree Syren it doesn'T matter how they were killed its one of the most disgusting things ever. All our official places had the flags on half-mast (do you say thqat when they only put the flag on half?) that day

Ush, I was agreeing with you and beating on Napalm. Clear? 😂

I simply meant, why does the number of dead have to be a certain amount for people to actually care? If Napalm had lost his entire family to the Nazi regime, I seriously doubt he would be saying only 'a few' died 😬