Originally posted by Darth Jello
2 things
1. SATANIC VERSES. Don't get all Rushdie on me but do remember the tradition that not all of the Koran is supposedly divinely inspired.
other "people of the book" can accept that their texts aren't literal and are probably badly translated or rewritten. I know the Koran is supposed to be the one true infallable text but...satanic verses.
2. The biggest problem in the Muslim world right now is the popularity of a certain hundred year old forgery comissioned by the Czar and taken mostly from a ripped off Alexander Dumas play manuscript called The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. That piece of shit has seriously poisoned the entirity of the middle east and north africa with so many muslims believing it as truth.
The fact is that Muslims' lives would be a lot easier if instead of blaming all their problems on supposed infidels, they went after the real culprits. The spiritual and political leaders that have gotten them into this hole. Even if the current radical strain of retards succeeds in wiping out every jew, christian, and zoroastrian in the middle east and north africa, they'll just start slaughtering each other until they run out of sects and ethnic groups to slaughter and realize they're in the same hole that they started, only now there's no resources or infrastructure.
Blind faith and ethnic hatred aren't a valid replacement for incompotent spiritual and political leadership
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]None of the Koran is divinely inspired. [/B]
That's wat 'U' think isn't it.
I'm merely voicing my own frustration about the fact that the Muslim world is plauged by government engeneered illiteracy and antisemitism and also doubly voicing my opinion as a quasianarchist that the true root of all evil is the inevitable corruption central authority in both faith and government.
I think the best thing for Muslim/western relations would be if Leon Czolgasz and Emma Goldman were promoted as heroes in the Muslim world.
Do you really think there would be so much terrorism, oppression and hatred if corrupt religious fanatics and autocrats started dropping like flies at the hands of their own people?
Originally posted by Darth Jello
antisemitism
Y do u always come 2 this? 😉
Do you really think there would be so much terrorism, oppression and hatred if corrupt religious fanatics and autocrats started dropping like flies at the hands of their own people?
No,but hey! terrorism exists bcuz of the injustice that ppl there face BY THE HANDS OF SOME1 ELSE (outsiders)U kno wat I mean don't u?
Originally posted by maham
Y do u always come 2 this? 😉No,but hey! terrorism exists bcuz of the injustice that ppl there face BY THE HANDS OF SOME1 ELSE (outsiders)U kno wat I mean don't u?
Originally posted by Darth Jello
Do you really think there would be so much terrorism, oppression and hatred if corrupt religious fanatics and autocrats started dropping like flies at the hands of their own people?
So, basically, moderate Islam needs to take control and run out the extremist groups that are imbedded in their own governments?
islamic terrorism exists because Israel exists and its never goign to end until Israel ceases to exist, the US stops trying to influence the middle east with democracy, literacy in the middle east increases, and extremists stop presenting false teachings to people about Islam. The fact of the matter is that there cannot be peace because the militants hate israel more than they love their families and their own faith
Originally posted by gordomuchacho
islamic terrorism exists because Israel exists and its never goign to end until Israel ceases to exist, the US stops trying to influence the middle east with democracy, literacy in the middle east increases, and extremists stop presenting false teachings to people about Islam. The fact of the matter is that there cannot be peace because the militants hate israel more than they love their families and their own faith
No, that is only an excuse now. That may have been the spark to start the fire, but they will not stop until they are dead or have the world under their thumb.
Originally posted by docb77
Yeah, I think we could all get along a lot better if that happened. My question is why doesn't it?
They can't control it, the fundamentalist groups are in control fo themselves over there. Al Qaeda is a worldwide network. Hezbollah is so strong that the Lebanese govt cant do a thing right now in this engagement with Israel. The numbers are so great that its impossible to stop it
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, that is only an excuse now. That may have been the spark to start the fire, but they will not stop until they are dead or have the world under their thumb.
I have to disagree, the entire middle east wants the destruction fo israel and a plestinian state or at least arab control there. The only person i coudl see that wants to possibly take over the world woudl be the iranian president, however, at this point hes such a fanatic aout fightign the us and destroyign israel that its only speculation right now
Originally posted by MyOwnMuse
So, basically, moderate Islam needs to take control and run out the extremist groups that are imbedded in their own governments?
Originally posted by gordomuchacho
I have to disagree, the entire middle east wants the destruction fo israel and a plestinian state or at least arab control there. The only person i coudl see that wants to possibly take over the world woudl be the iranian president, however, at this point hes such a fanatic aout fightign the us and destroyign israel that its only speculation right now
That reminds me of Bushy boy n all those fanatics behind makin him the president,tryin 2 take over the world by fightin endless wars as they r.
Mahmoud Ahmedi Najad is just tryin 2 fight THEM.I seriously don't think he's tryin 2 take over the world as u think he is.
Originally posted by gordomuchacho
I have to disagree, the entire middle east wants the destruction fo israel and a plestinian state or at least arab control there. The only person i coudl see that wants to possibly take over the world woudl be the iranian president, however, at this point hes such a fanatic aout fightign the us and destroyign israel that its only speculation right now
The Iranians are the puppet masters.
Originally posted by maham
There is no such thing as moderate Islam or extreme Islam.Islam is ISlam.Follow it as it is.That reminds me of Bushy boy n all those fanatics behind makin him the president,tryin 2 take over the world by fightin endless wars as they r.
Mahmoud Ahmedi Najad is just tryin 2 fight THEM.I seriously don't think he's tryin 2 take over the world as u think he is.
dude are you actually in Iran? Where are you getting your propaganda?
As for your fist point. Baloney. Islam has as almost as many divisions in it as Christianity. Shiite, Sunni, Kurd, etc. Add to that that there are elements that want to destroy anything not Islamic (to their view) and others who can tolerate the supposed infidel. Moderate and extreme are appropriate labels I think.