Being pedantic about other people, is rather amusing when you, yourself, spell like a 10 year old. I highlighted the mistakes I'm referring to for you! You're welcome!since english aint my first language I will allow my self some spelling mistakes and dont care about it.
Originally posted by Ou Be Low hoo
That's a very interesting opinion, but it would help if you [B]read the initial post before you commented on it. [/B]
I did read it. It was babbling innane gibberish. The US is the western nation with by far the greatest separation of church and state. Write something with any intelligence behind it and I will give it more credit.
Originally posted by finti
Now xian as a short for christians is lame though, maybe good in your head but to the rest pretty lame
Originally posted by Ushgarak
I did read it. It was babbling innane gibberish. The US is the western nation with by far the greatest separation of church and state. Write something with any intelligence behind it and I will give it more credit.
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Originally posted by finti
since english aint my first language I will allow my self some spelling mistakes and dont care about it.
Now xian as a short for christians is lame though, maybe good in your head but to the rest pretty lame
Apologises in regards to the spelling...but I find it pretty lame that someone who understands the meaning of a word or phrase goes on to babble like this:
maybe not so smart after all cause Xian is a city in China that was the capital city of the Qin dynasty. So since thats an actuall place thats what I forst thought off, reading your stuff it is pretty obvious that it is chrisitains you aim at. But xian for christians is more misleading than it is a clue
I also agree that oil is a major factor in the US' foreign policy, but I stated that the ideology behind the campaign was filled with Xian rhetoric. This much is plainly obvious if you've ever listened to/read one of his speeches...
Originally posted by Ushgarak
I did read it. It was babbling innane gibberish. The US is the western nation with by far the greatest separation of church and state. Write something with any intelligence behind it and I will give it more credit. [/B]
You have not understanding of anywhere beyond your own door-step if you believe the highlighted sentence to be true.
And as for WindDancer...
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...sychophancy is not a desirable trait in any man, woman or fish.
Originally posted by Silver Stardust
Bush constantly babbling about God does not mean that seperation of church and state is going away. You don't see people being made to pray in public schools, do you? You don't see the government saying that "Everyone MUST be Christian", do you?
This is a very simple way of looking at things...sometimes governments are more cryptic in their influence. You only need to recognise the increasing censorship of non-Xian values on American TV as one example of the Bush's determination to promote his beliefs across the nation and, by default, the world.
The US is the western nation with by far the greatest separation of church and state.this is correct, if this wasnt to be so please enlighten us to which denomination that is clinched to the state then
Apologises in regards to the spelling...but I find it pretty lame that someone who understands the meaning of a word or phrase goes on to babble like this:thats easy cause when I saw the headline of xian fundamentalist I thought, now what is this about? Some Chinese fundamentalists that are hung up on the Qin dynasty? It wasnt before I read your entire article that I figured out the xian referring to christians. So the headline is in this case very misleading. So the babble in this thread is your so called article here nothing else.
If you can't handle a debate, then leave it alone
Originally posted by Ou Be Low hoo
This is a very simple way of looking at things...sometimes governments are more cryptic in their influence. You only need to recognise the increasing censorship of non-Xian values on American TV as one example of the Bush's determination to promote his beliefs across the nation and, by default, the world.
THAT, however, does NOT violate seperation of church and state. Nor is it something that I have noticed. And, before you say it, I am not a 'brainwashed American Christian'.
Originally posted by KharmaDog
It doesn't help that at the begining of the Iraq war Bush called it Crusade. I mean, what the hell was he thinking (if he was)?
Nah, we all know he just doesnt think. Period. I am scared and confused as to how such a man can stay in power - my explanation is - he doesnt run the country - other power hungry, oil grabbing puppet masters do.
Thinking its all Bush is giving him WAY too much credit.
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Ou Be Low hoo, as much as I try to see your point, i dont agree with you.
The relationship between state and the religion in middle east and Africa is WAY too different to that in America. Im not saying America does not have weird....Christian...extremist organisation...psycho weirdos from hell - it does, but the state-religion thing, although still very much involved in America is different - and for one, we dont have a priest (or whatever the higest title is below pope is??) running America (although you might as well have, seeing how 'great' bush is)
K, this is basically how it is...in a nut shell -
Islaminism in power -
1. Iran - Ayatollah Khomeini overthrew Shah in 1979
2. Sudan - Rules since 1989 by Hassan al-Turabi National Salvation Front
3. Afghanistan - The Taliban consolidated their grip in 1996
^^ those countries are rules by religion - and im not saying we should go to war with them - oh HELL NO, im just giving an example.
however,
There are those in which Islaminism is in opposition -
1. Egypt - The Muslim Brotherhood, with the Jamaat-a-Islam of Pakistan was the fountainhead of 'political islam'
2. Saudi Arabia : An Islamic monarchy which withstood an atempt by fanatics to overthrow it
3. Turkey : Western style democracy has stripped its non-violent islamists of the power won by democratic means
4. Iraq and Syria : Totaletarian regimes have crushed Ismalist uprisings savagely
5. Palestine : Hamas militants marry religious with patriotic zeal
6. Pakistan : 'Moderate' Islamisit have enjoyed the longer access to constitutional politics than those of any other muslim country.
7. Checnya : A bitter struggle of Independence from Moscow has provided a haven for Islamic extremists.
8. Nigeria and Malaysia : Two of the 'peripheral' countries of the Muslim world where Islaminism is a growing force.
Source : Giddens. A, Sociology, pg.561, 2001, Polity
The point im trying to make is that - no actually, Christians fundamentalism is not any more dangerous than that of islam - and as described above, even muslim countries are having a problem with the extremists
Originally posted by finti
thats easy cause when I saw the headline of xian fundamentalist I thought, now what is this about? Some Chinese fundamentalists that are hung up on the Qin dynasty? It wasnt before I read your entire article that I figured out the xian referring to christians. So the headline is in this case very misleading. So the babble in this thread is your so called article here nothing else.
What you obvious dont handle is feedback that might question or criticise your stuff.
You continue to 'babble' about the title - rather than discuss the actual thread - so me thinks it is you, not I, that can nae handle doth discussion. As you correctly observed...There is no confusion in reagrds to the topic of the thread after reading the actual post...So I quite simply fail to grasp the grape of your contention...Perhaps it is that you have nothing to contribute to the thread in regards to the topic of discussion and so you seem to have decided to wallow away your hours on a rather ingenious abreviation of mine...[
Silver Stardust
THAT, however, does NOT violate seperation of church and state. Nor is it something that I have noticed.
The cryptic nature of the Xian influence, by definition, means that not everyone will recognise it. You seem to be one of them.
Ou Be Low hoo, as much as I try to see your point, i dont agree with you.The relationship between state and the religion in middle east and Africa is WAY too different to that in America. Im not saying America does not have weird....Christian...extremist organisation...psycho weirdos from hell - it does, but the state-religion thing, although still very much involved in America is different - and for one, we dont have a priest (or whatever the higest title is below pope is??) running America (although you might as well have, seeing how 'great' bush is)
I'm not arguing that the influence of the Xian-right is in violation of the religion-state divide, but rather that it is present and extremely influential. This does not occur to the same extent in other developed nations such as Canada, Austrailia and most of Europe.
With the US as the only current superpower, their influence on the world is enormous. If this influence is directed, in part, by the Xian beliefs of those in control then the religious oppression of other faiths is equally enormous.
The cryptic nature of the Xian influence, by definition, means that not everyone will recognise it. You seem to be one of them.
Or you're just reading too much into nothing. And if you don't like this so-called Christian censorship on TV, change the bloody channel or turn it off. Wow. What a concept.