Count Dooku vs Darth Vader

Started by TraptUnderIce4 pages

Doesn't Anakin win this 50 years ago?

Dooku might be able to take the older, less agile Vader.

Vader! And for all you Vader haters out there, we'll blow your planet up!

Darth Vader would take this one...not easily, but he would take it.

Dooku would own Vader. He was a more powerful Force user, a better duelist, and was generally superior. Want more proof? Dooku threw Obi in his prime across the room and knocked him unconscious with just the Force. Vader couldn't even do that to old Obi or even ESB Luke. Vader lost to Luke who was just a Jedi knight while Dooku could hold out against ROTS Anakin and ROTS Obi whom were both stronger than Vader.

Vader was holding back on Luke because he wanted to turn him not kill him. If he could turn him then himself and Luke could've ruled the galaxy together. Vader also didn't have to throw Ben across the Death Star to beat him but if he had too I'm sure he could. Dooku is strong but Vader is just as strong. He just tends to not have to use his power as much.

Originally posted by TraptUnderIce
Vader was holding back on Luke because he wanted to turn him not kill him. If he could turn him then himself and Luke could've ruled the galaxy together. Vader also didn't have to throw Ben across the Death Star to beat him but if he had too I'm sure he could. Dooku is strong but Vader is just as strong. He just tends to not have to use his power as much.

How many times must I say it? Vader WAS trying. Lucas says so, the books say so, and there's nothing in the movie to prove otherwise. If Vader "coul've killed him but wasn't trying" why didn't he just beat him like in ESB? Because he couldn't. Vader was humiliated that Luke was beating him. If anyone wasn't trying, it was Luke and the movies sure show that. Once he did start trying, he had Vader on the ground barely able to hold his lightsaber in about 30 seconds.

Now you said Vader could throw Ben across the Death Star. I don't think so, why didn't he do that to a simple Jedi knight then before he got owned, and Luke was sure not as strong as ROTS Obi.

Dooku would spank Vader IMO.

didnt we see this fight already?

ok so dooku was told to lose, but vader is also much more force-powerful as mech. not as fast,or as good as he could be. but hes got enough to get the job done on dookie......love dooku though.

Lucas specifically says Anakin gets weaker when he becomes mech, and we can see that in his fighting.

Dooku wins.. Faster better lightsaber skills and not weak in the force either

dont know if you saw the third episode but actually anakin killed dooku, so why would vader lose? it just sounded that vader is weak because the movie was done centuries ago, i mean the fighting on vader saga was horrible, and thats why dooku sounds stronger but its not.

OK, Anakin defeating Dooku does NOT necessarily mean Vader can. Lucas already said that Vader in OT was much weaker than ROTS Anakin. I would say Dooku, because he was much faster and if he catches Vader off guard one dose of force lightning Vader is toast.

[Persuade:Failure]maybe, but i would rather see vader fighting in an new movie to take conclusions, and still, there is a great difference betwen the vader that lost to luke and the one that killed obi-wan

one lightning bolt fries vader

What Vader and what Dooku are we talking of here?

ANH Vader?
ESB Vader?
ROTJ Vader?

AOTC Dooku?
Or ROTS Dooku?

Seriously, their skill changes in time.

All together i think Dooku would own. Vader sucked after he got his limbs burned and chopped.

There's no way Dooku could beat Vader. Vader is wearing a VCR and VCRs completely rock old people. It's like calling your dog with a walkie talkie. It just confuses and frustrates them.

Seriously though, I think Dooku would take it.

Originally posted by MTAPlayer
dont know if you saw the third episode but actually anakin killed dooku, so why would vader lose? it just sounded that vader is weak because the movie was done centuries ago, i mean the fighting on vader saga was horrible, and thats why dooku sounds stronger but its not.

Dooku was told not to defeat Anakin (he wasn't told to lose that caught him off guard) but he changed his style and the way he fought when he faced Anakin he never really challenged him head on. Vader however has a imo better control of the force but he isn't that much of a fighter anymore and Dooku his control of the force was great too, that wouldn't help all that much. Dooku would defeat him with a lightsaber

dooku was told not to defeat anakin?? i think i missed this part of the movie then.

Originally posted by MTAPlayer
dooku was told not to defeat anakin?? i think i missed this part of the movie then.
It might've been in the book. I assumed it since Sid did want Anakin as his apprentice and an apprentice with a whole in his chest doesn't do a lot.

Yeah its in books

Jep...it´s in books.