Originally posted by ODG
Those particular scans are from Superman #440, two issues before #442.
I saw that and made the connection when Bran mentioned the comic book issue #'s I'm going to check out the comics to confirm but these old comics had a way of doing chit like that.
Picked up a water pistol a few issues back and it turned out to be a ray gun that made the LT pee in his pants. So i'll agree to disagree until i read these comics.
Originally posted by Diesldude
The last scan shows superman flying. So he has his powers back. Now why does he need the FF? Was it to prevent the little alien from shutting off his powers again?
Desperation mode.
Originally posted by Diesldude
That was superman's guess, but as you can see from the alien's explanation, he was wrong. They weren't force feeding the dreadnaught the powers, As the little PP explained, he was shutting down the powers of the superheros, and the dreadnaught was duplicating them thereby creating the illusion that he was stealing their powers. Since superman thought the powers were getting stolen, he wanted to overload dreadnaught but that was never the case.
Psi literally says "Yes" to what Superman just said.
Originally posted by DiesldudeLike I, and the comic said, Superman had no powers at the time. The overloading is a neat fact, but ultimately irrelevant.
So basically since the Dreadnaught wasn't being forcefed powers, he couldn't be overloaded. When the heros lost their powers, they showed them in a moment of losing their powers and each one specifically mentioned that their powers were gone. No such thing for the dreadnaught because he never lost his powers.Abhi was right, superman defeated dreadnaught with the powers of Superman, Captain Marvel, J'onn, Aquaman and Ralph.
I hope you understand how silly Superman beating up Dread with Captain Marvel, MM, Aquaman, and Superman's strength sounds.
Also, why would Dread need to state he lost his powers anyway? He's presumably used to it, and also overloaded and getting the shit beat out of him.
Interesting part though, is when Dread turns his head to look at the heroes when he was supposed to be knocked out a panel later.
Originally posted by DiesldudeI don't believe your confusion is the fault of "old comics" doing wonky things.
I saw that and made the connection when Bran mentioned the comic book issue #'s I'm going to check out the comics to confirm but these old comics had a way of doing chit like that.Picked up a water pistol a few issues back and it turned out to be a ray gun that made the LT pee in his pants. So i'll agree to disagree until i read these comics.
You probably should have read the comics before making your declarations on whose interpretation was correct.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because that was two issues before Dreadnaught "robbed" Superman of his powers.
Duplicated, not robbed, big difference. Superman's powers were getting shut off.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Desperation mode.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
How does that add up to him not being able to be overloaded?
Dread duplicating the powers doesn't mean he can't be overloaded. I can't fathom where you just made that up from. He duplicated too many powers and got overloaded because of it. You know, by duplicating powers he doesn't naturally have...
Foce fed powers and duplicating are 2 completely different things.
Superman thought he could overload him like a circuit and burn, but he was duplicating powers. Overloading duplication if possible would make him lose or forget some powers but still leave him at his capacity and operable.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Like I, and the comic said, Superman had no powers at the time. The overloading is a neat fact, but ultimately irrelevant.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I hope you understand how silly Superman beating up Dread with Captain Marvel, MM, Aquaman, and [b]Superman's strength sounds. [/B]
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftBecause everyone else specifically stated it, and dreadnaught was more talkative that anyone else in that book. LOL
Also, why would Dread need to state he lost his powers anyway?
^ Yes, I have. You can shut up now.
Originally posted by DiesldudeObviously not. Superman would need like... a plot device force-field that simulates super-durability and super-strength. And obviously there's no evidence he had access to one.
If superman really didn't have the powers, do you think a normal man of 6'4 220lbs can knock out a 8' hulk type animal even if the dreadnaught had lost his powers?
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Originally posted by ODG
^ Yes, I have. You can shut up now. Obviously not. Superman would need like... a plot device force-field that simulates super-durability and super-strength. And obviously there's no evidence he had access to one.. . . . . .
Aight, that was a constructive discussion and i'll even concede that bran might be right with his interpretation. But don't you ever phucking tell me to shut up, you phucking no life basement dweller.
Originally posted by Diesldude"Robbed"
Duplicated, not robbed, big difference. Superman's powers were getting shut off.No comment.
Foce fed powers and duplicating are 2 completely different things.
Superman thought he could overload him like a circuit and burn, but he was duplicating powers. Overloading duplication if possible would make him lose or forget some powers but still leave him at his capacity and operable.
If superman really didn't have the powers, do you think a normal man of 6'4 220lbs can knock out a 8' hulk type animal even if the dreadnaught had lost his powers?
Not really, it's comics, he was able to duplicate his powers but not to his degree.
Because everyone else specifically stated it, and dreadnaught was more talkative that anyone else in that book. LOL
No he didn't. Superman had an idea of what was going on the entire time. Here's the next page:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/advsupes442-22.jpg
Superman knowing that he couldn't actually have his powers stolen stated that Dread was overloaded, and Psi agreed. That happened.
You must have missed where the shield enabled Emil to punch out a Superman robot. It had some degree of super strength.
He had like 14 panels where he said words besides "Ugh", or "Hahaha". He wasn't talkative at all.
Talkative compared to Doomsday though.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
"Robbed"No he didn't. Superman had an idea of what was going on the entire time. Here's the next page:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/advsupes442-22.jpgSuperman knowing that he couldn't actually have his powers stolen stated that Dread was overloaded, and Psi agreed. That happened.
You must have missed where the shield enabled Emil to punch out a Superman robot. It had some degree of super strength.
He had like 14 panels where he said words besides "Ugh", or "Hahaha". He wasn't talkative at all.
Talkative compared to Doomsday though.
Originally posted by Diesldude
Aight, that was a constructive discussion and i'll even concede that bran might be right with his interpretation.
Originally posted by DiesldudeYour projection has exceeded the upper limits of irony. Do you even see what you typed or do you have the memory of an illiterate goldfish? I'm the supposed "internet thug" in this conversation? You should probably look up the definition on urbandictionary.com. That is, after you shut up.
OOHhh an Internet thug.. Tough guy jacking off in front of the computer in his moms basement. Go at it [b] little man. [/B]
In the meantime, by all means, keep getting mad over wholly innocuous posts.
Originally posted by ODG
Your projection has exceeded the upper limits of irony. Do you even see what you typed or do you have the memory of an illiterate goldfish? I'm the supposed "internet thug" in this conversation? You should probably look up the definition on urbandictionary.com. That is, after you shut up.In the meantime, by all means, keep getting mad over wholly innocuous posts.
But.. if you want to know.. It's not those "wholly innocuous posts" it's your groundless condescending attitude.
Originally posted by DiesldudeI told you to shut up after you not-so-subtly tried to throw my suggestion back in my face about reading the actual comics (unsuccessfully). That's not condescension.
That was quick, damn!!! I hope you cleaned up before you posted.But.. if you want to know.. It's not those "wholly innocuous posts" it's your groundless condescending attitude.
That's just you getting mad over absolutely nothing and pretending that being told to shut up threatened your internet manhood reputationz such that you felt the need to reply, "But don't you ever phucking tell me to shut up, you phucking no life basement dweller." And somehow, I'm the internet thug. Hilarious.
Then again, maybe you just got mad over being completely wrong about a rather uncontroversial issue of simple fact. Or maybe you got mad that I read Superman comics. Whatever... shut up.
