Finally, tangible PROOF of MACRO-EVOLUTION

Started by Alliance11 pages

OMG this is ridiculous.

Originally posted by Alliance
OMG this is ridiculous.

Thread necromancers, assemble!

micro evolution is proven to exist. fact. it is responsible for the evolution and appearance of most if not all single celled organism and other simple organisms. it might be true that micro evolution happens in humans but the evolution is slower because it is often seen as alien or cancer and is destroyed/removed. many people are misunderstanding darwin here. he never proposed that there was some collective unconciounce{like jung} found inside the very phenomenon of non localised evolution which was making it pick out the FITTEST. not at all. the reason this misunderstanding arises is because of lack of understanding of what darwin meant by FIT. FIT was simply an organism that was better off in A SPECIFIC ENVIORNMENT AT A SPECIFIC TIME. this could mean that a diseased organism who could drink less was genetically STRONGER than a healthy/ strong organism who could drink more. also genetical FITNESS also means reproducing, a weak, old, disease prone man having six children is genetically more FIT in the darwanian sense than a strong, athletic, healthy man having only one. most of the time reproductive superiority as i mentioned just now is far superior in the darwanian sense to enviornmentally ADAPTIVE{not traditionally STRONG or PERFECT} superiority. in the end its about which GENES survive{NOT individuals or individuals posessing the gene} the GENE ITSELF. just as sickle cell anemia, although an inferiority and deadly disease is more FIT in malaria prone areas as it prevents the infected person from getting and dying of malaria as malaria is a more potent killer than the longterm sickle cell anemia.

My eyes are bleeding.

Evolution as Darwin saw it is a very archaic theory.

MACROEVOLUTION DOES NOT EXIST AS A CONCEPT

My eyes are bleeding.

Gauze, apply consistant pressure, apply new bandages ontop of the old as necessary. Get a friend to call 911.

darwins theory is evolution but its mainly natural selection either you change for the better or you die

No. Evolution is a fact. Darwin's Theory of Natural Selection explains evolution. And Natural Selection is not "either you change for the better or you die."

Originally posted by Alliance
No. Evolution is a fact. Darwin's Theory of Natural Selection explains evolution. And Natural Selection is not "either you change for the better or you die."
Bottlenecks come to mind.

why?

Bottleneck situations where survival is random. That's still natural selection is it not?

Wow, a thread where the religious side made more sense. That quickly changed half way through. ermm

Originally posted by Nellinator
Bottleneck situations where survival is random. That's still natural selection is it not?

In a bottleneck only the ones with extraordinary abilities survive. So, how is a bottleneck random?

OMG i posted this morning and its gone !!!!

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
In a bottleneck only the ones with extraordinary abilities survive. So, how is a bottleneck random?
Not true, a bottleneck is where an event basically kills everything and survival is a fluke.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Not true, a bottleneck is where an event basically kills everything and survival is a fluke.

Flukes never happen in nature. The week never survive by accident, there is always something that gives them an edge.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Flukes never happen in nature. The week never survive by accident, there is always something that gives them an edge.
No, not always true, and that is called a bottleneck. Survival can be entirely random.

Originally posted by Nellinator
No, not always true, and that is called a bottleneck. Survival can be entirely random.

Please provide an example.

Ok, lets say you are in an auditorium with people randomly dispersed and the roof collapses. However, three people near the door are not killed by falling debris and live to reproduce. Nothing about there genetics contributed to their survival, it was purely chance. That is a bottlenecking effect.