Superman Prime Vs. Dark Phoenix

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Originally posted by jffxex1980
The Phoenix Force is the sum and substance of all that lives. It’s cosmic energy not only represents all current life, but also future generations. To provide itself with a conscience, the Force unknowingly tapped into that future life-force, killing entire generations before they were even born.

How can u destroy a cosmic diety that is practically immortal? The Phoenix force represents all sentience and life.

If that is true, then that may suport my earlier contention that
the Phoenix has been around since the begining of time, or
atleast since the begining of life in the universe (excluding the
Cosmic Beings I assume). Eitherway, that's still hundreds of
millions, if not a few billion, years older than Superman Prime.

Jason800, I give u props for siding with Superman Prime but we're talking about a cosmic diety here. As I have said so many times, Jean Grey is an omega level telepath and telekines, now augumented with the phoenix force, her TP and TK become infinte. For crying out loud, che becomes white crown phoenix!!! She became the matriarch of the phoenix force! Not only she destroyed a freaking solar system but she also held the whole galaxy in the palm of her hands and healed it!!! I don't think prime is at that level yet. Fine, u say he's the sun itself and that he absorbed a red sun without getting weak but she's part of CREATION and UNIVERSE and she has stitched the fabric of space and reality! He's an insect compared to her. She consumes suns for fun. She'll absorb Prime in a heartbeat. Don't even get me started on her TP and TK powers. Her TP alone can take him out. Even galactus fears her. Death has no pwoer over her. Sorry kid but Jeanie wins.

This is what happens when u piss off a cosmic diety...

This is such a bad ass picture of Jean Grey......thought I'd share it with you all.

Originally posted by Jason8200
When did the topic go from Prime fighting Dark Phoenix to the Phoenix Force? Dark Phoenix was Jean Greys inner most hate and fear put out there... thats what created her. There would be no "Dark Phoenix" without Jean Grey. "Dark Phoenix is immortal" blah blah blah. You think if Prime is still alive after 830 centuries that doesnt mean anything? SO I asked for evidence on what she has done. Besides making a star go supernova? If she was such an important character why would it only include the X Men? Why didnt you have Spidey or Hulk or the Avengers or Captain America running to try to stop her? Apparently she was not that big of a deal. Anytime anything was big with SUperman in the DC universe you would have almost all of the heroes and alot of the times the villains teaming up to help. If you cant provide any evidence then thats fine. I have all of the Phoenix comics and have looked for evidence and have not found anything. So show me the evidence other than saying well Dark Phoenix was immortal and umm had red hair...?

Whoa. You're way off. Dark Phoenix isn't really even Jean Grey. When the Phoenix Force came into contact with human emotion, it became sentient, and uncontrollable.

Essentially, Dark Phoenix is the Phoenix Force with human emotion.

I can't imagine how Superman would even have a chance at defeating it.

Info on the Sword Of Superman

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Superman Prime can take this.

The sword has nothing on someone who is part of creation and life. What feats has Superman Prime ever done? DP toys with the universe on a daily basis.

I looked for a picture or even a summary of a comic that said Superman Prime had the Sword of Superman again. What I found was nothing but forum word of mouth stories. Again.

The lantern ring is mentioned every time but the Sword of Superman is only mentioned during the pre-crisis story and that was when he busted down heaven's gates. Not post-crisis Superman Prime.

Not even in the geocities sites have I found a description of Prime that included the sword.

So until I see a scan of Superman Prime holding the sword, I will go with what I found. And that is Superman Prime sat in the sun for thousands of years and had a GL ring and nothing else.

Phoenix can destroy universe, Superman Prime is joke.

PRIME IS TOO FAST FO PHEONIX

Originally posted by WOLVERINEFAN
PRIME IS TOO FAST FO PHEONIX

lol

*jeff ignores wolverinefan's ignorance and continues to eat his cereal*

Originally posted by Xplosive
Phoenix can destroy universe, Superman Prime is joke.

Actually, the Pheonix Force is a nexus of the Multiverse. It's power is unimaginable.

Superman Prime is too fast. Depressing.

superman prime man that guy is so fast , he slice the heavens

Fear his power and the "made up" sword by fans

LMAO

no evidence 🙁

This is some funny stuff these superman prime fanboys are full of so much shit their eyes are turning brown as we speak

First of all what dick is stupid enough to start the whole 'superman is angelic because he has el on the end of his name' ha yeah keep on taking the pills mate

The sword of heaven supposedly controls time and space , yeah there is such a thing as this but it doesn't control time and space , whatever **** made this up needs to have his brain checked it gives the holder (supes) the same knowledge as god ......yup thats it no 'mystical reality/time warping powers' just infinite knowledge

superman primes sat in the sun for 15,00000 years so he has a reasonable amount of juice charged up inside of him but it's still power which is what dark phoenix can absorb.......and the rign debate well it's still just a green lantern ring not that difficult in the end it's still energy which D,P can absorb so the superman prime fanboys shut up and accept it dark phoenix owns superman prime

Dark Phoenix takes this one she can mind wipe him.

no way of telling who would win seeing as we don't even know what he can do.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
no way of telling who would win seeing as we don't even know what he can do.

Good Point, Same one I make about Sentry 😛

i think dark phoenix would win

if phoenix could take life force from future generations, then wats to stop DP from just taking superman's life force? and even if she couldnt, she could still just keep sucking all the life from the rest of the universe to power herself up, i dont think superman would stand a chance against the combined lifeforce of (maybe literally) a gazillion people.

and about the whole suicide thing, Jean kept the pheonix force down so that the alien people (i cant remeber wat their called) could kill her cuz even with the phoenix posessing her she was still human and stuff. and as i recall the pheonix force left her cold dead body afterwards. anywayz, DP wound'nt suppress the phoenix force so superman would lose.

DP wins