"When has DD evolved past disintegration? "
super man issue ummm 145,,,actually i don't remember the issue number nor do i care enough to go digging the old coolection for it, but parellax disintigrated him and he showed up a couple months later.
"One wonders why GL didn't just bind both his arms and throw him into space. "
because he was too busy getting his ass whomped.
"Or Orion teleporting him into the core of the sun. "
because of the same,,,,and by the way that would be a very very bad idea since that's where DD draws his energy from.
"DD ain't that powerful."
Apparently you haven't read that many doomsday comics, Darkseid is afraid of him for a reason. and the character isn't limited to how you THINK he should be.
"Given the circumstances Doomsday was given"
pffft what circumstances? the jla showed up, and got their collective ass kicked, that's as far as the circumstances went....of course unless you're reffering to the first lja/dd asshanding then yeah there were circumstances,,,,being that doomsday had a hand tied behind his back.
DD will cream both of these guys.
So Doomsday was beating Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Doctor Fate, Martian Manhunter, and Batman at once? With only superstrength, durability, and moderate superspeed at his disposal? The only excuse for that is PLOT INDUCED STUPIDITY. Hulk and Juggernaut will trash him.
The JLA must not be too hard to beat.
Batman did it.
Martian Manhunter did it.
Who can't do it?
Originally posted by demigawd
Actually, I'm going to have to agree with Vegetto here. As I've always understood it, and as it was described here, Doomsday evolves past the level and type of damage inflicted by THE OPPONENT who killed him.
That's wrong. If that was the case each member of the Green Lantern Corps would have been able to use the exact same approach and would have had a shot at him.
It does not matter who is responsible for the attack; it is the nature of the attack. It is the same way with The Shaggy Man (who "instantly" adapts to any attack).
having been the one that started this thread and NOT being as familiar with the DC characters I was curious of the responses. Thanks all and keep em coming as this seems a pretty debatable match-up.
I'd like to read this in the DC books - can anyone tell me where to start? Are they all Superman's or do they move around the character books like Onslaught in Marvel.
PS - my biggest concern going in was gonna be DD speed. Even if he was stronger than Supes NO WAY he's handling the HULK and JUGGS but that speed factor with his strength. How can HULK or JUGGS hit something too damn fast to see?
"I'd like to read this in the DC books - can anyone tell me where to start? Are they all Superman's or do they move around the character books like Onslaught in Marvel."
Unless your interested in going on a scavenger hunt for a ton of comics that are probably all sold out anyways, I'd say your best bet is to go get the doomsday "graphic novels" from a comic store,,,,or possibly a book place. It's the easiest meathod to use.
It took Hulk and a slew of the earth's superheroes to bring it to thanos,,,,,darkseid and thanos were dead equals, doomsday KO'ed Darkseid in 3 or 4 blows,,,,in what ****in way is this match debatable?
"Hulk and Juggernaut sure as hell can't take the whole JLA down. They're too weak and stupid."
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Originally posted by The Flash
Hulk and Juggernaut sure as hell can't take the whole JLA down. They're too weak and stupid.
Weak? Hulk has limitless strength that he can access in mere seconds or less. Hulk has performed greater feats of strength than Superman, (not pre-crisis Superman. Marvel wouldn't stoop so low as to write that badly.) Juggernaut can punch through dimensions, and is virtually unstoppable. Both are virtually indestructible and unkillable. The both of them can regenerate from disintegrated atoms.
Stupid? The Hulk is a superhuman genius now, late-bloomer. He's way smarter than Superman. Last time I checked, Doomsday wasn't so bright.
Anything Doomsday could do, Hulk and Juggernaut could do, if given the same circumstances.
700 miles per hour (about 1 mile every 5 seconds, Hulk's top speed) is too fast for the eye to see.
Juggernaut cannot die either, unless it is by magical means. The only way to kill Hulk is to overload him with Gamma energy, and even then he'll regenerate.
If the GL corps chooses to allow Doomsday to trounce them (the only possible way he could beat all of them,) that's their business. If they all stand perfectly still, arms at the side, I can understand them losing to Doomsday. Not in any other circumstance (without Doomsday dying and ressurecting several times.)
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
700 miles per hour (about 1 mile every 5 seconds, Hulk's top speed) is too fast for the eye to see.Juggernaut cannot die either, unless it is by magical means. The only way to kill Hulk is to overload him with Gamma energy, and even then he'll regenerate.
If the GL corps chooses to allow Doomsday to trounce them (the only possible way he could beat all of them,) that's their business. If they all stand perfectly still, arms at the side, I can understand them losing to Doomsday. Not in any other circumstance (without Doomsday dying and ressurecting several times.)
What!?
Where do you get this stuff?