HULK & JUGGERNAUT vs DOOMSDAY

I honestlty think that the Hulk alone could beat Doomsday- he doesnt need Jugeernaut's help. Remember that there are alot of extremites that Doomsday mentioned when he was fighting the alternate universe superman (Justice Lords) that the Hulk can survive as well. Not to mention on top of that, that Hulk has the greatest healing factor in all of Marvel. Superman needs the sun to regenerate and heal- the Hulk doesn't. I'm not sure what it will take to kill Doomsday but I'm sure the Hulk has the endurance and durability to last long enough to eventually figure it out. On top of that Doomsday has a major flaw that the Hulk doesn't- his weakness is green (Kryptonite). They said in the show that Doomsday was created from Superman's DNA and although he was made to be his superior, he still has the same weakness as Kal' El. Supposing that the Hulk had Banner's consciousness, it wouldnt take him long to figure it out and capitalize on this weakness. Also, though Doomsday can't be beaten the same way twice, his strenght level is static- he cannot get stronger than he already is. The Hulk can- the Hulk has never been enraged so that his strength in its entirety has ever been revealed- Doomsday may be the one to push the Hulk to the extreme. Doomsday may not be able to be beaten with the strength-level of superman's punches but if the strength level of the Hulk surpasses the strength level of superman, he could beat Doomsday. If the Hulk becomes stronger than Doomsday, Doomsday is finished. I dont see how it can be the reverse- Doomsday beating the Hulk into submission to the point that he is either too weak or he returns back to normal. The main characteristics of the Hulk is the 'madder he gets, stronger he gets with no limit' and his accelerated healing factor.

you just watch justice league didn't you LMAO

we are talking about a different doomsday.

The cartoon version got defeated by superman by himself.

and darksied = thanos now that's just is as stupid as it get's

thonos own any mofo period

Originally posted by jinzin
"What's he going to do? Punch Hulk and Juggernaut really hard and expect it to work?"

Like I said Darkseid is = to Thanos. DD beat the **** out of darkseid. Are you implying that Hulk, and Juggs alone can take on Thanos? pfffthhahahahahaha! oh man I pity you.

😱 Your comparing Darkseid to Thanos? When was the last guy Darkseid fought that are on the levels of Magus' Thanos clone, Odin, Tyrant, or Beyonder? SssSuperman? 😆 And he didn't even win their recent encounters. Orion means what to Thanos? Probably as much as Surfer, Thor, and Drax - i.e. PUNCHING BAGS.

Furthermore, you touched on durability. No way is Darkseid even close to Thanos in durability, it's the titan's best attribute.

DD would get creamed by Thanos. Please don't even think for a minute that DD beating Darkseid means he can do the same to Thanos, unless you think DD's claws are greater than Odin or Tyrant's powers. This guy manhandles Thing and Hulk while under attacked by Masterson Thor and Hercules. Him pimpslapped both Hulk and Drax. Thanos would pimpslap both Hulk and Juggernaut. DD is sh!t to Thanos like Darkseid is.

Ever heard of the line, "Darkseid is no DC Thanos." Well that's true, Darkseid ain't no DC Thanos, that's for sure.

Also, Hulk has insane regeneration, while Juggernaut is mystically protected. Darkseid has neither, hence he got the ass kicking he received from Doomsday.

to be fair the Marvel versus DC try to make them (Darkseid and Thanos) out to be somewhat on the same level.

I don't know that much about Darkseid though - would you guys say he's more on an Apocalypse scale?

Just curious.

Has Darksied ever had the power to kill half of the life in the universe (not a mere galaxy,) with a snap of his fingers? I don't think they're equal at all. I would say that Darkseid is slightly superior to Apocalypse, though.

Originally posted by GRIMM THING
to be fair the Marvel versus DC try to make them (Darkseid and Thanos) out to be somewhat on the same level.

I don't know that much about Darkseid though - would you guys say he's more on an Apocalypse scale?

Just curious.

Pre-Crisis Darkseid >= Thanos > Post-Crisis Darkseid > Apocalypse

Current Darkseid < Superman 😆

If properly written as the character was intended by Kirby, Darkseid would kill Superman. Alas, Darkseid is a nobody according to DC now. Superman would kill Darkseid IMO WHEN (NOT IF) Darkseid runs into Superman again. DC loves Superman, Darkseid is getting outwitted by Batman and out powered by Superman and the infamous heat vision.

Man, are we off topic...

"So strength, speed, endurance, and regeneration allowed Doomsday to take down the GL Corps, eh? In that case, Hulk, Juggernaut, Abomination, Solomon Grundy, or any other powerhouse should be able to take down the GL corps, no problem. They are nothing. Either that, or the story involved plot induced stupidity."

did....you....just...not read...my post? He had a friggin GL ring! it's not pis it's credible.

"Darkseid = Thanos? Prove it. Show me how Darkseid (who loses to Superman, no less,) has proven himself to be equal to Thanos. Tell me one extraneous power the two share."

Marvel vs. DC the two raged accross the comics' multiverse from just about the first or second issue to the last (given what we have to read) and the battle ended with no victor due to circumstances,,,,,namely every friggin powerhouse superhero trying to stop em both. That wasn't even a fan voted thing either.

"I honestlty think that the Hulk alone could beat Doomsday- he doesnt need Jugeernaut's help. Remember that there are alot of extremites that Doomsday mentioned when he was fighting the alternate universe superman (Justice Lords) that the Hulk can survive as well"

You're basing your opinions of the fight off of the cartoons? please don't waste our time.

"On top of that Doomsday has a major flaw that the Hulk doesn't- his weakness is green (Kryptonite). "

Again, STOP USING THE FRIGGIN CARTOON AS YOUR SOURCE! and secondly, prove it.
"Also, though Doomsday can't be beaten the same way twice, his strenght level is static- he cannot get stronger than he already is."

yes he can, he evolves to overcome,,,,figure it out, if he needs his body to become stronger it will. Like I said, DD doesn't nessassarily have to even die to adapt to new attacks.
"Doomsday may be the one to push the Hulk to the extreme."

yeah and he may be the one to pop Hulk's head off.

"thonos own any mofo period"

just for the record, I more or less agree with you on this one, but well it DID happen so, i can't just ignore it.

[QUOTEYou're basing your opinions of the fight off of the cartoons? please don't waste our time.
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hope you're not talking to me here.

Originally posted by jinzin

Marvel vs. DC the two raged accross the comics' multiverse from just about the first or second issue to the last (given what we have to read) and the battle ended with no victor due to circumstances,,,,,namely every friggin powerhouse superhero trying to stop em both. That wasn't even a fan voted thing either.

In that same issue, Thanos was handling Lobo while Wolverine jumped in to assist Lobo. Wolverine's BONE claws actually cut Thanos and made him scream in pain. 😆 Cosmic level heroes and even skyfather level beings haven't cut Thanos and Wolverine can? Darkseid was lucky that they put the two at the same level cause the truth is...Darkseid ain't on Thanos' level. Nothing has been shown to put Darkseid on Thanos level.

Originally posted by OMEGA_05
Yeah until Doomsday jumps all the way into space and Juggernaut head explodes into pieces.

HULK SMASH
yeah right ........the only thing hes going to SMASH is the police because he would be smart enough to goin DOOMSDAY.....

Originally posted by jinzin
"So strength, speed, endurance, and regeneration allowed Doomsday to take down the GL Corps, eh? In that case, Hulk, Juggernaut, Abomination, Solomon Grundy, or any other powerhouse should be able to take down the GL corps, no problem. They are nothing. Either that, or the story involved plot induced stupidity."

did....you....just...not read...my post? He had a friggin GL ring! it's not pis it's credible.

"Darkseid = Thanos? Prove it. Show me how Darkseid (who loses to Superman, no less,) has proven himself to be equal to Thanos. Tell me one extraneous power the two share."

Marvel vs. DC the two raged accross the comics' multiverse from just about the first or second issue to the last (given what we have to read) and the battle ended with no victor due to circumstances,,,,,namely every friggin powerhouse superhero trying to stop em both. That wasn't even a fan voted thing either.

"I honestlty think that the Hulk alone could beat Doomsday- he doesnt need Jugeernaut's help. Remember that there are alot of extremites that Doomsday mentioned when he was fighting the alternate universe superman (Justice Lords) that the Hulk can survive as well"

You're basing your opinions of the fight off of the cartoons? please don't waste our time.

"On top of that Doomsday has a major flaw that the Hulk doesn't- his weakness is green (Kryptonite). "

Again, STOP USING THE FRIGGIN CARTOON AS YOUR SOURCE! and secondly, prove it.
"Also, though Doomsday can't be beaten the same way twice, his strenght level is static- he cannot get stronger than he already is."

yes he can, he evolves to overcome,,,,figure it out, if he needs his body to become stronger it will. Like I said, DD doesn't nessassarily have to even die to adapt to new attacks.
"Doomsday may be the one to push the Hulk to the extreme."

yeah and he may be the one to pop Hulk's head off.

"thonos own any mofo period"

just for the record, I more or less agree with you on this one, but well it DID happen so, i can't just ignore it.

Crossovers should never be used for the purpose of debating. The worst writing always occurs in a crossover.

Hulk is "virtually indestructible" and likely stronger than Doomsday. He can lift a 100 ton minimum in a calm state. "Pop Hulk's head off," eh? As though it were possible. Hulk would probably fling him off, and beat him unconscious first. Hulk is just as durable, if not more durable than Doomsday. Juggernaut is more durable than both.

Doomsday can become stronger? Give an instance of this occurring. From what I understand, Doomsday can mutate to become immune to a specific sort of injury. That has nothing to do with strength increase.

Cosmic Cube i agree with you everything you are saying.

But i think doomsday starts with more strenth than hulk at start but , Doomsday won't be able to knock him out rite away as people say.

After a while hulk will get stonger than Doomsday by a longshot.

The question is can he beat him with all the strenth.

I think he can do it 🙂 , and ya crossovers are gay.

Perhaps Doomsday does have more strength. We still have Juggernaut's big, damage resistant, magic wielding, super-strong ass to help. Once Doomsday is KO'ed or killed (though we know he can resurrect,) "There is more than one way to skin a cat;" in other words, killing Doomsday isn't the only way to win. Juggernaut's ruthlessness and immense durability paired with Hulk's ever increasing strength and insane regeneration is more than Doomsday can stand up to.

Dumbsday would be defeated easily by the pair

If Hulk can beat Juggernaut then Doomsday certainly can. Hulk's stopped Juggernaut in his tracks. Plus Doomsday isn't kryptonian so not of that would work on him like Magic, and all that. He had super strength under the red son, and all that.

Sheer strength can beat him just like it can with Supes but Juggernaut, and Hulk don't have it. Hulk might be able to get it tho..but Doomsday, and him would go at it forever until the earth Exploded. Not to mention Doomsday is faster then them both. And smart now.

Originally posted by Kento
Not to mention Doomsday is faster then them both. And smart now.

...smart enough to know fear. Superman psyched that punk out, so much for intelligence.

"hope you're not talking to me here."

no that was directed towards sparrow.

"Crossovers should never be used for the purpose of debating. The worst writing always occurs in a crossover"

agreed, but if you truely believe they shouldn't be used period, what the hell are you doing posting in a crossover thread?

"Hulk is "virtually indestructible" and likely stronger than Doomsday. He can lift a 100 ton minimum in a calm state. "Pop Hulk's head off," eh? As though it were possible. Hulk would probably fling him off, and beat him unconscious first. Hulk is just as durable, if not more durable than Doomsday. Juggernaut is more durable than both."

He's not indestructible, his healing factor is ridiculously fast though. He ain't stronger than doomsday.
Hulk hit superman, pounding on his chest for a good long while and supes just stood there hands on his waste....then later on it took (what wa it?) DAYS, just to hurt supes? compared to a guy who's dismantled superman and the rest of the JLA in a few panels,,,well you get the idea.

"Doomsday can become stronger? Give an instance of this occurring. From what I understand, Doomsday can mutate to become immune to a specific sort of injury. That has nothing to do with strength increase."

If DD dies due to his lack of strength he evolves to become stronger, it's that simple.

"If Hulk can beat Juggernaut then Doomsday certainly can. "

agreed. Besides juggs isn't entirely unstopable Onslught punched him cross country and he was very ****ed up afterwards.

"smart enough to know fear. Superman psyched that punk out, so much for intelligence."

this isn't about doomsday rex so leave him out of this or I'll bring in grey hulk and the non crystal juggs into this debate,,,,and it will still be a slughter.

'Hulk hit superman, pounding on his chest for a good long while and supes just stood there hands on his waste'

It's not credible, it was a crossover.

Lest we forget, in all this "Thanos is the man" talk (which he is), he's scared of The Hulk.

-AC