good point bilb.
the balance is never 'destroyed'
by killing the jedi, palps and vader take away any chance for that balance to be restored....until a jedi does the deed, that jedi being anakin in rotj.
the force was out of balance from ep1. the hints are overwhelming and redundant. the jedi are clouded and palps is taking advantage of the imbalance he created. there is balance or there is no balance
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Where is the beating the head on the computer smilie.
So, if you use that logic. If you drop a teaspoon of sand back on those scales they are still in balance until a rock (Anakin) comes along and gets dropped there?
The problem is, JP, your allegories just do not fit the situation GL gives. I think you are taking 'Balance' way too literally. The way he descrbes it looks nothing like scales, aside from anything else.
Originally posted by PVS
good point bilb.
the balance is never 'destroyed'by killing the jedi, palps and vader take away any chance for that balance to be restored....until a jedi does the deed, that jedi being anakin in rotj.
the force was out of balance from ep1. the hints are overwhelming and redundant. the jedi are clouded and palps is taking advantage of the imbalance he created. there is balance or there is no balance
An opinion contradicted by GL- who also directly says, in the quotes above, that the Sith destroy the balance!
You just cannot contradict these things, sorry.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
An opinion contradicted by GL- who also directly says, in the quotes above, that the Sith destroy the balance!You just cannot contradict these things, sorry.
ush, im speaking in the sense of a final destruction.
there is no event which finally destroys it. its already destroyed and the sith did it. i made no contradiction.
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
USH GL contradicts himself on a daily basis. And my example is a literal one so that everyone could understand.
Feel free to not accept what GL says, but this is what he says and he hasn't contradicted that.
If people want to not accept GL's words that is their business, but it puts them out of touch with what is so. If you want to actually disprove what he said with his own statements, I am open to that.
Originally posted by PVS
ush, im speaking in the sense of a final destruction.
there is no event which finally destroys it. its already destroyed and the sith did it. i made no contradiction.
But no-one was ever talking about 'final' destruction in that sense. The word was only there because GL used it, and evidently he did not mean it in a final sense.
It's not actually necessarily a final word. Put a whacking great weight on a pair of scales and you 'destroy' the balance- it doesn't mean you have to have smashed the scales to pieces with a big hammer- wary as I am as using scales as an example, because that is not how GL sees it.
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
then say something constructive........
Okay....:
Why the f*ck do you all care so much to fight about it this much? GET OVER IT, IT'S ONLY FROM A F*CKING STUPID MOVIE!
Or
How about we all get lives, since these movies are ruining our social skills, and turning friends on their friends - I mean look at how you are all fighting over something spoken of in passing over 5 years ago!
OK look, we all have opinions and those are based on things we have read / seen over the years. Honestly Ush it comes across as though you are speaking down to all of us which is just rude. Thats why the hostility is rising. I know what I think and until someone treats me with respect and explains it diferent I am not gonna change my mind. Point is, alot of us would appreciate it if you did not say things in such an abrupt & belittling manner.
Originally posted by Sith Master X
Isn't it as simple as this? When the Sith are around, the force is not in balance...and when the Sith are gone, there is Balance? 🤪
Can't be- the Sith never died out, yet the Force was balanced, so they cannot do it just by existing.
ARC- calm down, that's not going to help. JP's right, you should bring something constructive or leave us to it.
I'm not talking down, Bilb. I simply present things as GL gives them. I mean, I have been basically accused of making up a quote in this thread- frankly I think I am the more wronged.