If it's a fight, Superman should trounce Hulk a minimum of 19/20 times. Strength on the other hand, is a different matter.
Superman has shown more on on panel then the Hulk's best feats can't even compare to. Superman is damn strong, and is easily one of the physically strongest things in comics at times.
All we know of Hulk is that Marvel Earth has no technology that can start to calculate his strength. This includes the vaunted tech of Reed Richards, Dr. Doom, SHIELD, and Tony Stark.
If Hulk holds up like he has been he should still theoretically have the potential to be stronger than Superman...it just hasn't shown itself yet.
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
yeah, but anything that comes out of the WWH series doesnt count, at least not after seeing how the writers handled his bout with the silver surfer 😂
Of course it counts - WWH only showed us what would happen should the Hulk become sufficiently ticked off - NO reason why he couldn't or wouldn't be able to do it again.
If memory serves didn't a writer also claim even Superman wouldn't be able to stop WWH?...
I don't think there has ever been a good reason why the Hulk should be stronger than Superman simply because there's never been a good pro-Hulk argument outside of "Hulk get mad".
Hulk is a mutated human being who's abilities were triggered by exposure to gamma radiation. His rage fuels his strength, but how do you quantify anger/rage? How much madder can Hulk become? And since Hulk's rage seems to correlate with an increase in muscle size and density, how much bigger can his muscles become before his body starts tearing itself apart?
Superman doesn't have this problem, he's kryptonian physiology makes him damn near a cosmic entity since more of his power is unlocked with increased exposure to yellow sun radiation (and an even higher increase with white star radiation). So while the Hulk's emotions have a limit (you assume) Superman has no limit to how much power he can unlock over time.
Take into account he has other abilities that aid his strength (like tactile telekinesis) then there's no question that Superman will more than likely hold an edge in strength.
Originally posted by Allankles
I don't think there has ever been a good reason why the Hulk should be stronger than Superman simply because there's never been a good pro-Hulk argument outside of "Hulk get mad".Hulk is a mutated human being who's abilities were triggered by exposure to gamma radiation. His rage fuels his strength, but how do you quantify anger/rage? How much madder can Hulk become? And since Hulk's rage seems to correlate with an increase in muscle size and density, how much bigger can his muscles become before his body starts tearing itself apart?
Superman doesn't have this problem, he's kryptonian physiology makes him damn near a cosmic entity since more of his power is unlocked with increased exposure to yellow sun radiation (and an even higher increase with white star radiation). So while the Hulk's emotions have a limit (you assume) Superman has no limit to how much power he can unlock over time.
Take into account he has other abilities that aid his strength (like tactile telekinesis) then there's no question that Superman will more than likely hold an edge in strength.
No one knows the boundries of human emotions - and therefore you can not assume the Hulk's emotions have a limit, on the contrary I would say it is quite the opposite.
As for Superman being near a cosmic entity - you could say the same of the Hulk who with strength alone has achieved feats no other mutants and non mutants have achieved (in the Marvel universe), which in my opinion indicates that the Hulk's strength isn't completely dependent on physical mutation (ie. how the Hulk is said to derive his strength from a pocket universe).
I don't dispute that in a fight Superman's other abilities combined could give him an edge - however I stand by what I have said about the Hulk's limitless strength being greater than Supermans.
Originally posted by GahLakTus
No one knows the boundries of human emotions - and therefore you can not assume the Hulk's emotions have a limit, on the contrary I would say it is quite the opposite.As for Superman being near a cosmic entity - you could say the same of the Hulk who with strength alone has achieved feats no other mutants and non mutants have achieved (in the Marvel universe), which in my opinion indicates that the Hulk's strength isn't completely dependent on physical mutation (ie. how the Hulk is said to derive his strength from a pocket universe).
I don't dispute that in a fight Superman's other abilities combined could give him an edge - however I stand by what I have said about the Hulk's limitless strength being greater than Supermans.
Nothing about the Hulk's strength is consistent with the origin of the character. How are gamma rays related in anyway to a pocket dimension?
And as far as emotions go, how do you even quantify an emotion like anger/rage? When you're in a rage, you're in a rage, there's no limitless state of rage. Some people will kill you in a rage others won't depending on the circumstances.
There's no such thing as infinite rage and given that the Hulk can only be Hulk for a set amount of time, he can never reach an infinite state of rage (even if such a thing were hypothetically possible).
Superman on the other hand becomes stronger with increased exposure to yellow sun radiation (and white stars as well with greater effectiveness). There are no limits to his strength since he can enjoy the benefits of these power increases indefinitely as long as he remains on earth or any other system with these conditions.
So while the Hulk's strength fluctuates depending on his rage "level", Superman just gets stronger gradually and consistently. No way is the Hulk stronger.
i made this a couple days ago in another thread:
"well, superman's bio has him at a lower lifting capacity than the hulk when on solid ground in a purely weight lifting contest.
superman's weight lifting strength is capped on earth at like 100,000 tons, whereas the hulk's lifting capacity is inapplicable, the only quantified weight was the 150,000,000,000 ton mountain. and king hulk is superior to even the hulk persona that made that feat.
superman able to utilize his flight to supplement the weight could lift or move planetary masses with extreme effort."
superman can lift more when applying his thrust on stuff he wants to move.
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this will explain it furthar:
" strength doesn't allow him to move planets, thrust does.
think about it, superman will be doing a handstand on earth and in his attempts to "lift it" he will just be doing a push up, he has to push against it with his flight. even hulk can't feasibly lift anything aproaching a solar mass due to it's gravity, lifting it isn't possible."
hope it helps.
Re: whos stronger superman or hulk??
Originally posted by black_goku#1
i think after a heated batttle hulk would win cuz he just keeps getting stronger 😉
that's is if superman pissed him off enough. if hulk is like in his super angry form than hulk would soooooooo win but when he is just hulk superman would win, JUST though just.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i made this a couple days ago in another thread:"well, superman's bio has him at a lower lifting capacity than the hulk when on solid ground in a purely weight lifting contest.
superman's weight lifting strength is capped on earth at like 100,000 tons, whereas the hulk's lifting capacity is inapplicable, the only quantified weight was the 150,000,000,000 ton mountain. and king hulk is superior to even the hulk persona that made that feat.
superman able to utilize his flight to supplement the weight could lift or move planetary masses with extreme effort."
superman can lift more when applying his thrust on stuff he wants to move.
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this will explain it furthar:
" strength doesn't allow him to move planets, thrust does.
think about it, superman will be doing a handstand on earth and in his attempts to "lift it" he will just be doing a push up, he has to push against it with his flight. even hulk can't feasibly lift anything aproaching a solar mass due to it's gravity, lifting it isn't possible."hope it helps.
All star Superman was able to lift 200 quintillion tons and more (almost 3 times the weight of Earth). Normal Supes is said to lift about a third of that weight which means he can lift something that's roughly close to the weight of earth itself.
Superman is stronger.