whos stronger superman or hulk??

Started by Redwolf72 pages

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Notice it is said that the starship was composed of the natural resources gleaned from a solar system. That doesn't mean that the craft had the mass of a solar system.

Comic books (for the most part) are quite logical. They may not be scientifically sound, but they are logical. Don't confuse logic with compliance with modern science.

Superman himself has said that Hulk is stronger than anyone he has ever faced.

Hulk's greatest feat of strength: Moving an inertial mass greater than that on a neutron star. A neutron star has an inertial mass far greater than that a solar system.

As I have said, and you have ignored, nothing Superman has done compares. Not holding a microscopic black hole, not pushing War World. Nothing.

When has Superman performed a greater feat of strength? None of the feats you have mentioned remotely compare to resisting the matter-antimatter attraction.

The longer Superman fights, the weaker he becomes. The longer Hulk fights, the stronger he becomes.

Superman's strength is not limitless, and it has never been said to be limitless. Superman's body is a solar battery that has a limit to the amount of solar energy it can absorb. When Superman absorbed all the sunlight he could, he emerged from the Super Sun, hence the name "Superman Prime." Superman's strength is not infinite.

Hulk is an infinity of physical strength, and he doesn't need any help from the sun, or anything else to get stronger. The more stress his body and mind are put through over time, the stronger he becomes. The more pain he experiences, the stronger he becomes. The more fear he experiences, the stronger he becomes. The more anger he experiences, the stronger he becomes. His insane regeneration makes it virtually impossible for him to die. I'm no fanboy, and I have nothing against Superman. I realize Superman is more powerful than the Hulk. He simply isn't stronger than the Hulk.

Superman's strength has a limit.

Hulk's does not.

Superpowered beings pushing planets, and such is not logical. The Hulk punching the earth off orbit would kill us. I've heard scientists say if the earth were off by one degree in either direction we'd either freeze, or have major warming.

-As far as Superman and the Earth Stealers. Notice though, that in the comic book the weight of that object was inestimable. It's not me saying this it's the comic.

-Yes Superman said that the Hulk is stronger than anyone he's ever fought. Superman didn't say that the Hulk was stronger than him, he just said he's the strongest he's gone up against.

-Also remember when Superman beat Thor in the Justice League/Avengers Crossover. Superman stated that Thor was probably the single toughest opponent he's ever faced.

Concerning Superman Prime, he came out of the sun (that he had been hypernating in for 16,000 years) to destroy Solaris. Not because he reached his absorption limit.

You said Hulk's "greatest" feat of strength was moving an inertial mass greater than that of a neutron star. What issue/year did that happen?

If we are going with the "greatest" feat of strength ever, then I could start using Pre-Crisis Superman, or Superman Prime. Both of which are so overpowered it's ridiculous.

If Superman doesn't take a sun-bath then he does have a limit to his strength. If he does bath in the sun his powers go up. The longer he's in the sun the higher up his powers go. Depending on how close he is to the sun depends on how fast and how much power he gets.

Hulk didn't realize or care what he was doing when he moved the Earth, or how doing so would affect anyone. Savage Hulk is an imbecile.

Superman moving the Earth using his flight, strength, and tactile telekinesis is not illogical; it's incredible, but he's just that powerful. Hulk punching the Earth and moving it from it's orbit isn't illogical, it's incredible. If Hulk punched the earth, and it turned into a grapefruit, that would be illogical. Incredible and illogical are not synonyms.

In case you were wondering "sneezing away a solar system" is highly illogical. Not incredible, illogical.

Hulk moved the matter-antimatter orbs in "Marvel Team-up featuring Spiderman," published in 1988. The difference between Pre-crisis Superman and Hulk is that Hulk has never been "ret-conned" (retroactive continuity.) In the DC timeline, Pre-Crisis Superman never existed, and none of his feats ever occurred. Hulk could meet or exceed anyone's strength give time and a sufficient source of stress; even Superman Prime. But, we're talking about Normal Savage Hulk and Normal JLA Superman.

Superman is a solar battery. Like any battery, his body can only hold so much sunlight. Hulk is a gamma radiation generator. Hulk relies only on anger, adrenaline flow, and his overactive medulla oblongata. The more physical or emotional stress he experiences, his strength increases exponentially. He gradually gains body mass, allowing him to attain limitless levels of strength.

Originally posted by Redwolf
Superman constantly exceeds previous limitations in strength as well. You will never, ever see a Hulk feat, no matter how ticked he gets, that will exceed what Superman can do. This has been explained at different times as fluctuations in Superman's emotions or as that he sees himself as human and that limits him, or that he can almost always push himself harder. Read the "No limits" storyline for an example.

In the second Superman/Spiderman crossover, he looked better than Hulk, but he didn't flat out defeat him. Superman stood his ground and took the blows. Saying something to the extent of, "nothing on this earth can move me". The Hulk was giving his best and couldn't move Superman. The reason Superman didn't take down Hulk was because he new what was causing him to get angry, something ringing in his ear if I remember right. Again not a victory for Hulk.

Regarding the "Superman VS Incredible Hulk" of 1999, you forgot to mention that, at 1 point, Supes punched Hulk through hills, then grabbed him, twisted him above his head, and threw him away. This despite, by Superman's own admission, Hulk saw him.

This happened right before Supes found out that the android who kidnapped Betty wasn't Hulk, but..well, an android.

So, if you consider this, both Supes and Hulk had their moments, but they just stalemated. It's not like Superman said, "Wow this Hulk is just too powerful so I give up." The fight was a stalemate, not a victory for Hulk.

right. supes limits his potetial by trying to be human
that right there is what makes him the weaker canidate. he is always afaid of what he will do to others even his enemy. so, even if supes could reach levels that the hulk can[wich i dont say he can] he is too much of a pussy to try it hulkfans is back!

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Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Hulk didn't realize or care what he was doing when he moved the Earth, or how doing so would affect anyone. Savage Hulk is an imbecile.

Superman moving the Earth using his flight, strength, and tactile telekinesis is not illogical; it's incredible, but he's just that powerful. Hulk punching the Earth and moving it from it's orbit isn't illogical, it's incredible. If Hulk punched the earth, and it turned into a grapefruit, that would be illogical. Incredible and illogical are not synonyms.

In case you were wondering "sneezing away a solar system" is highly illogical. Not incredible, illogical.

Hulk moved the matter-antimatter orbs in "Marvel Team-up featuring Spiderman," published in 1988. The difference between Pre-crisis Superman and Hulk is that Hulk has never been "ret-conned" (retroactive continuity.) In the DC timeline, Pre-Crisis Superman never existed, and none of his feats ever occurred. Hulk could meet or exceed anyone's strength give time and a sufficient source of stress; even Superman Prime. But, we're talking about Normal Savage Hulk and Normal JLA Superman.

Superman is a solar battery. Like any battery, his body can only hold so much sunlight. Hulk is a gamma radiation generator. Hulk relies only on anger, adrenaline flow, and his overactive medulla oblongata. The more physical or emotional stress he experiences, his strength increases exponentially. He gradually gains body mass, allowing him to attain limitless levels of strength.

😖leep: 🤨 im sorry, stopped listining. who cares whats logical or "incredible!" they are comics. they dont need to make sense

Superman is the ultimate superhero.He is a GOD.A GOD can beat anyone.Maybe he should ask Zues can he join in with the other GODS in Olympus? 😄 😱 😆 💃 👽 😮‍💨 😂 😛 🙂 Just a joke but seriosly,he's basically a GOD.Hercules is waaaaayyyyy stronger though.Did anypone watch that 1997 cartoon disney series about the young days of Hercules.This guy picked up the sun and threw it into the air!!!Has Superman done this yet?Hercules is either stronger than Superman or they're strength is both unlimited.

start your own damn poll! 😠 we dont care about hercules!! 🤨 dipsh#@t.

Originally posted by black_goku#1
i think after a heated batttle hulk would win cuz he just keeps getting stronger 😉

Doesn't matter how strong he'll get cuz he'll never be as strong as Superman or Goku.If Doomsday didn't kill Superman,what chance does the Hulk have. 😆 Superman's strength is unlimited!

Zod... you are using a cartoon series about Hercules as an arguement? Is this real life? Also don't bring up Goku... he can't even breathe in space. Plus, when he gets hungry he has no powers. So end it.

Superman is stronger than Hulk to start out with. Just going all out strength... Hulk will surpass Superman after he gets mad for awhile. But in a fight Superman is faster... stronger at the start... a better fighter... and smarter. Not to mention that Superman has a more variety of powers.

madder hulk get stronger hulk get...most of the hulk verison anyway.

Originally posted by Jason8200
Zod... you are using a cartoon series about Hercules as an arguement? Is this real life? Also don't bring up Goku... he can't even breathe in space. Plus, when he gets hungry he has no powers. So end it.

Superman is stronger than Hulk to start out with. Just going all out strength... Hulk will surpass Superman after he gets mad for awhile. But in a fight Superman is faster... stronger at the start... a better fighter... and smarter. Not to mention that Superman has a more variety of powers.

I agree completely.

Originally posted by Zod4Life
Doesn't matter how strong he'll get cuz he'll never be as strong as Superman or Goku.If Doomsday didn't kill Superman,what chance does the Hulk have. 😆 Superman's strength is unlimited!

Superman's strength is not unlimited. Hulk has already surpassed Superman's level of strength. Goku is nowhere near as strong as Superman or Hulk. Hulk would rip his arms off and beat him to death with them. Try doing a Kamehameha now.

Superman starts off, way way stronger than Hulk.

But obviously, the madder Hulk gets the stronger he becomes. Over a period of time, it's a given that he'll become stronger than Supes.

Superman is an awesomely powerful non-cosmic being. But if he was the absolute best at everything, there'd be no point in any other heroes - hence the Crisis On Infinite Earths series cam along and drastically reduced Supes powers.

Nowadays:

He's very fast - but no quite as fast as Flash.

Very strong - but not quite as strong as Hulk.

Very durable - but still has his key weaknesses (magic, k-nite, prolonged fights)

As well as his other assorted powers.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I agree completely.

Superman's strength is not unlimited. Hulk has already surpassed Superman's level of strength. Goku is nowhere near as strong as Superman or Hulk. Hulk would rip his arms off and beat him to death with them. Try doing a Kamehameha now.


Goku's fight with Kid Buu on the Kaioshin planet was causing shockwaves that where passing throught the dimensional plane where the Kaioshin Planet is.Goku can murder Hulk with a single punch.

doubt ful even SS4 Goku punches would be like kisses to the Savage Hulk.

Originally posted by Mainstream
doubt ful even SS4 Goku punches would be like kisses to the Savage Hulk.

LOL.
Why are you arguing like a fanboy?Goku's fists caused shockwaves that were shaking the ground from the Kaioshin Dimension to the Earth, this is something the Hulk isn't capable of, it would take him months to reach that level.

as I do recall SS4 Goku power is temperally and the Hulk strenght grows and grows...whe Goku can grow back form a skeleton like the Hulk once did let me know.

Originally posted by K3VIL
LOL.
Why are you arguing like a fanboy?Goku's fists caused shockwaves that were shaking the ground from the Kaioshin Dimension to the Earth, this is something the Hulk isn't capable of, it would take him months to reach that level.

Heh. How many times has Goku died?

It really wouldn't take Hulk much time at all. Hulk is already stronger than Goku. Hulk reached the strength level of a Celestial in moments. Hulk moved the planet from it's orbit with a single punch. Broke the matter antimatter atttraction. Nothing Goku could ever do remotely compares.

Everyone has in their imagination this "anger x time = strength" formula that doesn't exist. Unlike Goku, Hulk doesn't have to charge. The strength increase occurs in an instant. Goku had to charge his ki for hours to even reach that level of strength. While Goku is screaming his head off trying to charge, Hulk would be beating the tar out of him.

Hulk's strength is limitless. A saiyan's isn't. Once Goku hits SS4, that's it. So, after Goku has completely run out of ki energy, and Hulk has grown to a height of about 20 feet, with enough strength to collapse a neutron star, Chi Chi will be crying over her husband's broken corpse.

Hulk smash anyone that comes in his face talking sh*t it's as easy as that.

Superman wins

Originally posted by CharmedGrl420
Superman wins

If this were a fight, Clark is most likely to take it. I doubt Goku could contend with Hulk, and I'm pretty sure he couldn't beat Superman. I'm convinced that Superman is more powerful than Hulk.

But, if you're looking for the strongest one there is, look no further than old jade jaws. Hulk is the strongest superhero, bar none.

Gokou can knockout both of them. But Supes against Hulk I'd say Supes.