Metallica VS Megadeth

Originally posted by JaSKa
IM SICK AND TIRED OF ALL THESE BULLSHIT THAT MOST OF YOU ARE SAYING.
MEGADETH AND METALLICA ARE BOTH MY FAVOURITE BANDS, BUT I THINK MEGADETH HAS BETTER MUSIC. AND THE FACT THAT METALLICA HAD BETTER RESULTS THAN MEGADETH IS BECAUSE AFTER MUSTAIN WAS KICKED OUT FROM METALLICA (CAUSE HE TURNED TOO AGRESSIVE WHEN HE WAS DRUNK), LARS ULRICH AND JAMES HETFIELD STARTED TO SPEAK SHIT ABOUT HIM, AND CREATED A REALLY BAD IMAGE!! AND SO MANY PEOPLE STARTED TO HATE HIM. AFTER THIS IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR MUSTAIN NO CREATE A NEW BAND AND ALSO TO COMPETE WITH METALLICA.

AHHH, AND ONE LAST THING, DAVE MUSTAIN IS BETTER THAN KIRK HAMMET!! KIRK HAMMET USES TOO MANY EFFECTS IN HIS GUITAR, AND USES MOSTLY HAMMER ON AND PULL OFF, BUT MUSTAIN IS DIFFERENT, HE COMBINES A CLEAN SOUND OF THE GUITAR AND GREATS RIFFS QITH AN INCREDIBLE TECHNIQUE!! THAT KIRK HAMMET NEVER HAD. AND IF SOMEBODY THINKS IM WRONG IM SHURE HE/SHE DOESNT KNOW A THING ABOUT GUITARS.

****ING HOSTILE!!

alrite iv bin waitin a long time to hv my say.....MEGADETH KICKS METALLICA'S ASS ALL DA WAY .....letz face it..........mtallica are sell outs......i don't blame them for wanting all the money...they put in da hardwork and deserve it.....but i believe they should have done it more thru music....not da napster scenario .......but what i really wanna point out is "some kind of monster":da movie.........i mean WTF was dat.....look this is metal alrite....i can understand if da band has a problem .....and they go to a therapist ,but to show each and every part of it to metalheads all around da world in general.........tat is so weak....so much of a sell out and a publicity stunt......i cant believe they did that.....that was like one of da least metal moments iv ever seen.....i had a lotta respect for metallica wit their ride the lightning and kill em' all and mop albums but wat they did jus smashed it all to pieces......that was weak...jason was rite in sayin dat it was ****in lame!.......kudos to him....im glad he left.....now coming to the music part ....metallica are good.....they have some really good songs like one fade to black ride the lightning etc.....but believe me megadeth are if not more on da same level with songs like holy wars, hangar 18...rust in peace, in my darkest hour, peace sells, symphony of destruction and da list goes on.......imo i think megadeth kicks metallica butt......both in terms of music and in da world of metal in terms of passion,attitude.....and aggression......but hats are off to metallica too...firstly for kickin dave out(thank god almighty).....and for gr8 albums in da past 20 yrs
MEGADETH ROCKS!........
also check out she wolf in rude awakening......i mean dave's leads in dat kick kirks ass all da way from here to purgatory!!!!!!!!

I personally like megadeth better...heh shoulda made a poll.

I cant believe this thread is still going...........

Originally posted by ESP07
I cant believe this thread is still going...........

I like Metallica 🙄

Originally posted by nastyyy
I like Metallica 🙄

This could go on FOREVER. Personally I say Matalica just because I havnt really listened to Megadeth that much (I'm not really a big metal fan)

Metallica just watch some kind of monster mustaine said it himself everything he touches turns to shit and you cant call Metallica sellouts they are taking risks when they first changed styles with the black album that was a risk they could have lost their fanbase and plus peace sell's sucks metallica is way better than megadeath 😛 😈 🍺 👿

Yeah, Mustaine isn't that great of a guitarist. He's good, but his talent lies in his writing. A lot of the awesome, intricate solos people hear are from Marty (or whoever is in the band at the time). Mustaine's solos are actually pretty simple but they're played fast. That's not the whole story though.

Megadeth has had AMAZING musicians though. Specially Marty Friedman and Chris Poland. Neither Kurt nor James could take them. David Ellefson is an excellent bassist. Not nearly as good as Cliff Burton, but better than every other bassist Metallica has ever had. Oh, and Lars is nothing compared to Nick Menza.

Dave Mustaine is one of the greatest at writing stuff for guitar. He's pretty good with lyrics and rhythmic work too (Peace Sells most notably). Besides, Metallica used Dave's work without giving him credit. Listen to Hangar 18 then listen to Call of Ktulu. It's the same exact chord progression on guitar.

Megadeth wins overall. Metallica influenced more, but Megadeth put out the better stuff. They also didn't betray all their fans like Metallica did. Oh, and don't get me started on Master of Puppets either.

Originally posted by TheStormrider

Megadeth has had AMAZING musicians though. Specially Marty Friedman and Chris Poland. Neither Kurt nor James could take them. David Ellefson is an excellent bassist. Not nearly as good as Cliff Burton, but better than every other bassist Metallica has ever had. Oh, and Lars is nothing compared to Nick Menza.

Dave Mustaine is one of the greatest at writing stuff for guitar. He's pretty good with lyrics and rhythmic work too (Peace Sells most notably). Besides, Metallica used Dave's work without giving him credit. Listen to Hangar 18 then listen to Call of Ktulu. It's the same exact chord progression on guitar.

Megadeth wins overall. Metallica influenced more, but Megadeth put out the better stuff. They also didn't betray all their fans like Metallica did. Oh, and don't get me started on Master of Puppets either.

Originally posted by jks
EVERY bassist metallica had is/was better than ellefson.

Metallica DID give mustaine credit. When was the last time you looked at the liner notes in the KEA and RTL booklets?

You ARE aware you're saying a band that released risk didn't betray their fans, aren't you?

Dude, no. Ellefson outplays every bassist from Metallica except Burton. He's a far better bassist than most give him credit for. Dave Mustaine was best at writing for guitars, not so much for the bass and drums with a few exceptions (Peace Sells).

Yeah, they did give credit. That doesn't matter though. It's still Mustaines work and they didn't have permission from him to use it.

Yeah, Megadeth made two really popish albums. They did pull back with The System has Failed though. Metallica is still in the shit hole with St. Anger. There are few bands that have sold out as much as Metallica has and Megadeth certainly isn't one of them.

Originally posted by TheStormrider
Dude, no. Ellefson outplays every bassist from Metallica except Burton. He's a far better bassist than most give him credit for. Dave Mustaine was best at writing for guitars, not so much for the bass and drums with a few exceptions (Peace Sells).

Yeah, they did give credit. That doesn't matter though. It's still Mustaines work and they didn't have permission from him to use it.

Yeah, Megadeth made two really popish albums. They did pull back with The System has Failed though. Metallica is still in the shit hole with St. Anger. There are few bands that have sold out as much as Metallica has and Megadeth certainly isn't one of them.

Fair play, Mr. jks. Fair play indeed.

I consider bassists on different reasoning, so I suppose we can leave it at that.

For the riff that Metallica stole, it is indeed legal. It doesn't really help their credibility though.

Also fair play on your selling out comment. I happen to find that Megadeth has proven that they can pull through after releasing a pop album justifies them more in my eyes. Compare St. Anger to The System has Failed. St. Anger blew. Just like the past three albums. It blew.

Megadeth has only released two crap albums while Metallica has released four crap albums. I find the winner to be Megadeth. Sure, I may be a bit biased because I hate Metallica, but even most fans will agree with me on that. Therefore Megadeth > Metallica.

Metallica: Better songwriters overall, but thats based on opinion only.
Megadeth: Better muscisians (technicely speaking).

Lars was okay in the old days, started sucking in 89, then went downhill fast. Kirk is nothing at rhytemn compared to James. That's why James did all the rhytemn guitar on at least the first 4 albums, and I think the Black Album as well. And Kirk screws up most his solos live. The only truely talented muscisians (technicely) in Metallice were Cliff and James.

Dave Mustaine's a great rhytemn guitarist, and most of the soloists he's worked with crush Hammett in the technical department. Megadeth's drummers were always better then Lars. James might be a better rhytemn guitarist technicely speaking when compared to Dave, but it's close. And Megadeth had the better bassist for the majority of Metallica's career.

So all in all, Megadeth is technicaly better, and the rest is based on opinion only.

So Megadeth is better when it comes to the only aspect which is not based on opinion, but IMO Metallica are the better band, but it's not by far.

this is still going on huh? heres my veiws... possibly once again.

metallica are better. why? they're still not playing metal from the eighties in two decades gone. they've moved on, still play the old stuff in gigs but have evolved. megadeth? erm.... nope. i have nothing against mustaine and megadeth, tehy're not a bad band. but theres no epic quality like there is with metallica. even on the load and reload albums.... theres a couple of gems, like fixxer and outlaw torn

when i talk to metallica fans who dont like the newer stuff its because they're die hard metal fans and not really interested in broadening their horizons. metallica have never sold out. they released load and lost many fans. a failiure? they didnt make as much money from it either... so why keep doing that style? because they wanted to. they'd produced 5 albums that the fans loved, done hard work... why cant they release a couple of more experimental albums? isn't it their right to?

and the napster stuff..... has that really changed much? you can still download music for free on certain fileshare programs, so they never really did any harm. and wouldnt you be a bit pissed if people were'nt paying for your music? do you really think they were doing it just for themselves? what about smaller upcoming bands who make little? metallica have always stood up for themselves, and even though lars has said he kind of regrets it, be honest for one minute and you'll realise that it was for the best.

Originally posted by darth_royke
metallica are better. why? they're still not playing metal from the eighties in two decades gone. they've moved on, still play the old stuff in gigs but have evolved. megadeth? erm.... nope.

Have you even heard anything by Megadeth they put out after 1992?
It's arguably a lot more pop then anything Metallica has done. Hell, Risk is simply a pop record. Megadeth have changed their style a LOT more then Metallica. They constantly changed their sound. IMO they stopped being a pure thrash band in 1990. And from there they just became more poppy. Load and Reload both have a lot of metal elements in them, but Megadeth eventually abandond metal almost all together. They certainly never tried to go back to the thrash sound of the 80's, like Metallica tried to do with St.Anger.

megadeth has'nt evolved into their new format... de-volved certainly.

metallica didnt try to go back to thrash metal with st anger, they used some of the influence of their earlier stuff but its its a new thing.

Originally posted by darth_royke
megadeth has'nt evolved into their new format... de-volved certainly.

How exactly did Megadeth de-volve? What is your argument for that, seeing as they changed their sound a lot more then Metallica.

You might say their music went downhill, but the same can be said for Metallica (at least anyone who can recognise good music).

So how is it that Megadeth, in your eyes, de-volved and Metallica evolved.

i do recognise good music, and their load and reload albums, while perhaps not as good as what they'd previously put out, was a lot different to be bad music. if you have influences from all sorts of music and feel in touch with the lyrics any song can make you like it, i found connection with several of them. ok so most people obviously havent, but, most of those people are hardcore metal fans.... metallica, the creators of early metal(as it was), changing so radically frightened and infuriated most of their fans because they dont realise what bands influenced metallica.

megadeth 'devolving' was a joke, but perhaps evolving, the darwin theory that is, is about changing for the better. as the person who posted before me said that megadeth had gone more 'poppy', which may not be a good change. did metallica change for the better? certainly not in a money/business way... but musically? i do beleive so. even if you dont like the music they produced, it helped them as far as being able to experiment, which in turn helped them make the S&M album, which, is an epic piece of musicry. of course, even more fans were lost because of their dislike of classical music, but hammett and burton were trained classically in parts of their teachings, and the early stuff, particularly songs like call of the ktulu and master of puppets, show how easily classical music fitted with the 'epicness' of these songs.

again, many people dont like classical and cannot see this, which is fair enough. many people are not open to a band doing something different. again... fair enough. but if you cant at least respect the fact they've always done what they want, which they've done from the beginning, go elsewhere.