Originally posted by JWangSDC
If it's that wonderman....He has no chance against hulk. How on earth would you think he is more powerful than the strongest of the Marvel Universe?
i never said i thought he was "more powerful" but fights aren't all about strength, if they were then Batman and Spider-man would've been killed long ago
O.k. i may be doing some attributing that i ascribe to time. Wonderman started out as 95 ton. But marvel has said the he is The Most Powerful Avenger. I think your the one doing the most attributing, to the Hulk. The Hulk has strength, no doubt. He also has a host of muscle abilities. But you can't "believe" in the Hulk and him being strong, without believing in other characters powers.
I'm excited about it. I liked Wonderman before I knew all about his enormous potential.
All of the abilities I've posted are from the Marvel Encyclopedia.
Hulk is too much stronger than Wonder Man. Even in a calm state, Hulk can lift a whole hell of alot more than 100 tons. He's the strongest being in the Marvel Universe. (aside from the obvious, such as LT and IG.) He's already proven himself to be much stronger than Gladiator, who is arguably stronger than Superman. Wonder Man isn't touching his strength.
Wonderman has power density, that Hulk might be able to fight against for a while but Wonderman would stop him dead if he had to.
There are some pretty dense things in the Universe. Wonderman got lucky enough to be a part of it.
Wonderman sorta has the power explanation for the start of the Universe, or the Big Bang. Most Powerful Punch...I frickin' love it.
WM has no chance in this one. HULK would have little trouble breaking WM down, he is weak minded. after WM gives the HULK all he's got for a while. He would recognize that he can't get'r done. WM is always thinking about dying again and is very fearful of it understandably, so he has trouble mentally keeping himself in the fight. HULK is too much for him. And WM is not the strongest of the Avengers. THOR, Herc, Sentry, IM, HULK. just to name a few with more juice.
HULK wins even as Banner HULK, gray HULK is a close one though.
Here are Simon's more recent stats.
WONDERMAN...
Height: 6' 2"Weight: 380 lb.
Eyes: Red, formerly blue.
Hair: Gray, formerly black.
Strength Level: Wonder Man possesses superhuman strength enabling him to lift (press) 95 tons under optimal conditions. When extremely focused, upset or angry, Wonder Man's strength enables him to lift well over 95 tons putting him in the 100-ton strength level range.
Unusual Features: Wonder Man's eyes no longer have visible pupils or irises. His entire eyeball is permeated with microscopic shifting spots of ionic energy, which make them glow a bright red.
Since his resurrection by the Scarlet Witch, Wonder Man's body becomes enveloped in ionic energy whenever he uses his powers in battle causing him to look like a being composed entirely of shifting red and dark purple glowing energy.
Known Superhuman Powers Wonder Man possesses superhuman strength, speed, durability, reflexes and stamina. The tissue and bone of his entire body have been augmented in strength and to a certain extent supplanted by an unknown substance during the ionic process that gave him his powers. Despite Wonder Man's statements that he is composed of ionic energy, he is in fact composed of organic matter that is permeated with ionic energy.
Wonder Man's stamina enables him to exert himself at peak levels for up to an hour and a half before fatigue poisons build up in his blood, causing him to tire. Wonder Man's skin and tissue is hard enough to resist temperature extremes from the cold vacuum of space to the extreme temperatures generated at ground zero of a nuclear bomb without any harm.
Wonder Man can run at superhuman speeds above 55 miles per hour. It is theorized that Wonder Man could potentially run at 500 miles per hour in a strait line for 30 minutes before tiring.
Wonder Man has been shown to be able to leap many feet into the air and cover large distances using this method. It is estimated that Wonder Man could leap about three miles per leap.
Wonder Man no longer requires food, water or oxygen since the energy that gives him life is far more efficient and self-sustaining than the biochemical processes that sustain normal, ordinary human life.
Wonder Man can fly by tapping releasing the by-products of the ionic energy interactions within his body unidirectionaly through his skin. The process resembled the workings of a noiseless nuclear powered jet engine. It is unknown the top speed at which Wonder Man can fly, but he can apparently reach escape velocity with ease and journey into outer space under his own power.
Wonder Man can halt the flow of ionic energy to his eyes through an act of deep concentration and make them revert to normal for brief periods of time. If Wonder Man does this for an extended period of time, he will suffer a headache from the strain of stopping the flow of ionic energy to and from his eyeballs.
Wonder Man's vision extends slightly into the infrared section of the visible spectrum allowing him to see in absolute dark without aid from any light source.
While it appears Wonder Man transforms from a normal human being into being composed purely of ionic energy, this is not the case. Wonder Man's physical body is merely covered by ionic energy at that point. It is unknown if this outer covering of ionic energy adds more protection to his already near-invulnerable form or if it is just a by-product of his resurrection by the Scarlet Witch.
Wonder Man also taps his ionic energies to enhance the speed of any of his physical action, giving him a practical reaction time hundreds of times faster than an ordinary human being's.
Despite these his various powers, Wonder Man can still be hurt or rendered unconscious by a sufficiently powerful force. Wonder Man still possesses nerve endings that allow him to feel pain to a certain degree. Because of the ionic energy in his body, Wonder Man no longer physically ages and is functionally immortal.
This is going to be a good fight. Wonderman has beaten the crap out of Thor , Ultron, Iron Man, and Abomination. He has a decent chance in this fight.
Speed, power of flight, limitless stamina, and fast reaction times give him a slight edge in this fight.
Well, this battle have happened once or twice in the comics, and the hulk beated wonder man in all of them. But it was a very close battle , it was one of the most difficult battles for the hulk that i have ever seen.
But by the way, wonderman has the power and the capacity to beat the hulk because he has beaten people like thor( more than once), ultron, abomination, the thing or iron man.