Originally posted by Wonder Man
Wonder Man might get killed here but if he lives and goes the distance he stands a shot.
Wonderman may be able to go the distance and win against Rulk because he's become everyone's beat up puppet or scrub, but against most incarnations of the Hulk, he would lose badly if the Hulk went for broke on him. I imagine that a battle between the two of them would last for about one page if PIS, and some instances of PIS were turned off.
This is a bad match up imo.
Originally posted by Wonder Man
Wonder Man is called near Sentry level strength. This could be a fight if Wonder Man survives the death blows.
Near Sentry level in strength? Really? I ask because he may have been called this, but when it came down to actual battle feats Wonder Man (Simon) was one shotted by guys that weren't remotely in the Sentry's weight class (Hiroim, Korg... etc). The Hulk, has nearly always been portrayed as a character that can destroy Wonder Man, even if he was backed by a team of several Avengers. This really is a bad match up for Simon, no bias intended, it's just what has been portrayed on panel time and again. I think a better fight for Simon would be Namor, Firelord or someone in that class.
not sure why or how this thread made it this far. wm always has been and forever will be a second tier strongman. he'll have the occasional good feat (beating abomination in a brutal fight, the rulk battle) but in general, over the course of his career he is most certainly second tier. perhaps he might score 1/10 if he gets that "highlight" power, but no way he gets more than that against hulk.
Originally posted by carver9
If Wonderman is in Sentry class, what does that make Grey Hulk?
That fight does tend to put things into visual perspective.
And yeh, Wonderman is well below Sentry Class. Grey too, for that matter.
That said- even Grey Hulk could still amp with rage. His power jumps were less explosive than Savage's (and he started lower at base), but Grey was more than capable of hitting Top Tier brick levels. His showings against The High Evolutionary and against Abomination are the best examples (IMO) of what Grey can do when he's motivated enough.
Originally posted by Bentley
A character wearing the biggest PIS shield since Captain America flirt
Yeah, right. Hello Hulk hater. So he's like Captain America. Cap beats up people who are hundreds of times stronger than him like Namor. Thor, and someone who is not that strong but is still very strong compared to him, like Spider Man, Rhino and all. So where would that leave Wolverine and Spider Man? don't just abandon them like that okay. 🙄
Originally posted by Stoic
Wonderman may be able to go the distance and win against Rulk because he's become everyone's beat up puppet or scrub, but against most incarnations of the Hulk, he would lose badly if the Hulk went for broke on him. I imagine that a battle between the two of them would last for about one page if PIS, and some instances of PIS were turned off.This is a bad match up imo.
Yeah, just because Loeb gave him a bad run, doesn't mean he sould get beaten up every now and then. That's disrespecting a character too. And ABC logic never works. If one method that works for one character, that does not mean it works for the other. And Rulk and Hulk are not the same.
Originally posted by carver9
Cant ignore on panel showings. 😠
Yep, when Hulk loses against some who are non-existent when compared to him, that's not PIS and panel showings must not be ignored, but whenever Hulk does a feat or overcomes someone powerful, that's PIS. Hulk seems to the most hated character on every battle forums online.
Originally posted by Wonder Man
smilie_osxWill Wonderman somehow walk away from this fight similing too. We're going withthe notion that no one hits harder than Wonderman. This fight will sit down the Titans.
Originally posted by Wonder Man
Wonderman can prob. sit down Thor or Hercules. I think he punches Hulk until Hulk goes Banner on him. Thenthe next time Hulk runs into Wonderman there is no show. Wonderman sits down the Hulk, like it or not.
Originally posted by Wonder Man
Wonderman being the Most Powerful Avenger has Hulk outclassed. In stamina and longevity and all other placesexcept Strength. Wonderman has the most powerful punch. He can hurt the Hulk. The Hulk may get a bit stronger,
but in Wonderman's case Strength is insufficient.
He topples the Green Giant or Hulk does what he says to do.
help when someone insults my boy Hulk liek this.