Wolverine no Claws/adbone vs batman no belt

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Richard Dragon, Shiva, Cass (I can argue that she isn't) and Connar Hawk are better martial artist then Bruce... and 275 times smarter? Get real buddy

Never heard of dragon, I disagree about shiva, and it was just a hyperbole take it easy.

Batman is stronger then Wolverine with out his adamantium skeleton and he is not as good of fighter as old Bats.Yet I still tank Logan will take this one unless Batman hits him with a pressure point shot that knocks him out.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Your logic confuses me. Blade is stronger then Batman so... Wolverine... Wolverine is stronger then Blade... What?

...Blade is in the 1 ton range and Wolverine is above the 800lbs range. There examples of Wolverine throwing a shark out of the water onto a boat in the middle of the ocean, swinging telephone pole as a weapon, throwing a dumpster with one hand down an ally, while under water throwing a person against the side of the pool hard enough to crack the concret... all of these feats are above 800 pound feats and are of the top of my head. Blade is stronger then normal Wolverine although they are basicly even in berserker rage

Who says Bruce has to fight with just his body? Aside from being the third best martial artist in the world, he is also incredibly resourceful and would find a way of incapacitating Logan in such a way that his healing factor couldn't help him get out of, like drop some massive object on top of him.

I now think its a tie

wolverine still wins regardless, batman is not as strong as wolverine and wolverine is way better in fighting and just a mo fo bad ass, batman cannot take as much pain as wolverine , and as for blade, i checked websites and i actually have the marvel dictionary books on all the marvel characters, blade cannot lift 1000lbs, they said his strength is that of a peak human.

Originally posted by Hegemon875
sherlock holmes? HES NOT PART OF DC OR MARVEL. actually batman is the best detective and martial artist in the DC universe. Plus he's at least 275 times smarter than logan, and does logan ever use the martial arts all I ever see him do is run around slashing stuff as hard and as fast as he can.

🙄 My point is that Bats has the title greatest detective, and he isn't. Maybe in DC but out of everything he's not the greatest.

And Batman gets nothing to work with. Its a straight up battle, and that isn't his specialty. Sure he knows a lot of martial arts. Big deal. Wolverine has been a samurai, knows some ninja tricks, is a lot more fierce, been trained army trained, and has a lot more experience then Bats will ever have in his life. As long as Logan can keep a clear head he can win this fight. If he doesn't however no matter how much stronger he is Bats would win.

As if Logan is better at keeping a clear head than Bruce. Wolverine is always out of control, whereas Batman is obsessed with being in control. Also, having nothing to work with would suit Bruce just fine because he knows 127 forms of unarmed combat alone.

127 martial arts are not always the answer...I mean even with all his martial arts he still can loose to Shiva, and Batgirl.

Shiva and Batgirl are better than Batman. If this fight was Batman with weapons he would easily win but without he won't.

For the people that are saying that Logan is stronger then Bruce this is not so in this fight with out adamantium Logan is no longer at peak human strength Bruce can easily lift 800lbs and has lifted 1000lbs before.I steal say Logan will win this do to his healing.But he can be knocked out do to Bruce's body pressure point fight style crap that can strike Logan's nerves and shut down his body for a little wile.It's not a one sided fight like most are saying.Wolverine win though.

We be bootleg!! Check it if anyone here knows about logans past you know he can't remember half of it, hence why he always goes to charles for help. you can't count all his experiences because he doesn't remember it, duhhh!!!

it can go either way.
We be bootleg!!!!

Originally posted by Blade Cutter
For the people that are saying that Logan is stronger then Bruce this is not so in this fight with out adamantium Logan is no longer at peak human strength Bruce can easily lift 800lbs and has lifted 1000lbs before.I steal say Logan will win this do to his healing.But he can be knocked out do to Bruce's body pressure point fight style crap that can strike Logan's nerves and shut down his body for a little wile.It's not a one sided fight like most are saying.Wolverine win though.

and as for bruce lifting 1000lbs, that is just plain wrong!!!, if they say he is a human, then he cannot lift 1000lbs, anything 800lbs is said to be superhuman, batman has no superhuman strength or powers, so just gat over it !!! and be more realistic, there is no way he can lift 1000lbs, even the maximum human peak strength is around 575lbs, according to the olympic champoin of weight lifting, he is currently the worlds strongest man, he only lifted 575lbs, it is possible he can lift 1000lbs when bench pressing. so if batman is a man, ordinary guy, then why is all this 1000lbs bull shit coming from?, the DC's calculation of batman and other hero strengths are not accurate, we all know he is human and humans cannot lift that much lbs over their heads!!!, its not just right. Damn!!!

nuff said

Originally posted by wolverex84
wrong!!!, without his adamantium he is even more beastal/tougher/feral than ever!!!, the adamantium only increased his strength and protects his bones, his healing factor will boost to a level that is near that of hulks healing, and yes he will be more stronger because the adamantium is what is protecting him from mutating or becoming a wild/feral. i can recal a comic that i read when adamantium was removed from wolverine's body, he became very strong and his healing factor was faster than ever, he got runover by a car and half of his bones were broken/damaged including his spleen, kidneys, liver, heart, wthin a few seconds, that is less than a minute, all his bones and organs were back to normal, now can batman beat that!!!, he will just keep coming back for more until he is rady to finish batman for good, wolverine definately wins this clean and clear.

and as for bruce lifting 1000lbs, that is just plain wrong!!!, if they say he is a human, then he cannot lift 1000lbs, anything 800lbs is said to be superhuman, batman has no superhuman strength or powers, so just gat over it !!! and be more realistic, there is no way he can lift 1000lbs, even the maximum human peak strength is around 575lbs, according to the olympic champoin of weight lifting, he is currently the worlds strongest man, he only lifted 575lbs, it is possible he can lift 1000lbs when bench pressing. so if batman is a man, ordinary guy, then why is all this 1000lbs bull shit coming from?, the DC's calculation of batman and other hero strengths are not accurate, we all know he is human and humans cannot lift that much lbs over their heads!!!, its not just right. Damn!!!

nuff said

Dude its comic books you could say he used some martial arts medtitation type stuff.

Originally posted by Kento
🙄 My point is that Bats has the title greatest detective, and he isn't. Maybe in DC but out of everything he's not the greatest.

And Batman gets nothing to work with. Its a straight up battle, and that isn't his specialty. Sure he knows a lot of martial arts. Big deal. Wolverine has been a samurai, knows some ninja tricks, is a lot more fierce, been trained army trained, and has a lot more experience then Bats will ever have in his life. As long as Logan can keep a clear head he can win this fight. If he doesn't however no matter how much stronger he is Bats would win.

im not sure what you mean by everything but all that matters is whats true in the comic world.

Originally posted by Hegemon875
Dude its comic books you could say he used some martial arts medtitation type stuff.

The bats lifting 1000 pounds? I would go for more of a switch..Logan lifting 1000, and Bats lifting 800 if you ask me...*shrugs*

Originally posted by wolverex84
wrong!!!, without his adamantium he is even more beastal/tougher/feral than ever!!!, the adamantium only increased his strength and protects his bones, his healing factor will boost to a level that is near that of hulks healing, and yes he will be more stronger because the adamantium is what is protecting him from mutating or becoming a wild/feral. i can recal a comic that i read when adamantium was removed from wolverine's body, he became very strong and his healing factor was faster than ever, he got runover by a car and half of his bones were broken/damaged including his spleen, kidneys, liver, heart, wthin a few seconds, that is less than a minute, all his bones and organs were back to normal, now can batman beat that!!!, he will just keep coming back for more until he is rady to finish batman for good, wolverine definately wins this clean and clear.

and as for bruce lifting 1000lbs, that is just plain wrong!!!, if they say he is a human, then he cannot lift 1000lbs, anything 800lbs is said to be superhuman, batman has no superhuman strength or powers, so just gat over it !!! and be more realistic, there is no way he can lift 1000lbs, even the maximum human peak strength is around 575lbs, according to the olympic champoin of weight lifting, he is currently the worlds strongest man, he only lifted 575lbs, it is possible he can lift 1000lbs when bench pressing. so if batman is a man, ordinary guy, then why is all this 1000lbs bull shit coming from?, the DC's calculation of batman and other hero strengths are not accurate, we all know he is human and humans cannot lift that much lbs over their heads!!!, its not just right. Damn!!!

nuff said

wrong, his strength is not weaker without his adamantium. Infact, wolverine becomes stronger without it,,,,weather this is a byproduct of the lack of adamantium poisoning or due to the influx of mutation without the adamantium is never stated, but wolerine's physical strength is without a doubt greater when his skeleton is adamantium free.