STATIC-X Guitarist Busted On Sex Assault, Kidnapping Charges - Feb. 26, 2005

I don't see how everyone can overlook the possibility that the girl never intended on sleeping with him in the first place? You don't even know the variables.

Put yourself in her shoes. 14 year old girl goes to meet the guitarist of one of her favorite bands. When they "meet", he, being a 39 year old man with multiple past offenses and a jail record, she being a supposedly innocent 14 year old, do you think she honestly had a say in the matter?

Probably not. My arguement has nothing to do with "blame", but everything with intimidation. I doubt there was anything morally consentual about it. He more than likely gave her an ultimatum.

If they met under the pretense that they were hooking up, it's a totally different story. But, given the charges, that doesn't seem to be the case.

You overlook that she was allowed to go alone.

Could have been prevented.

-AC

Cool, Maybe they'll get Koichi Fukuda back on guitar.

You can't speculate on the circumstances in which they met, given she could have snuck out, said she was going elsewhere, etc. Not that that has anything to do with the situation, and the all but apparent fact she was compromised. You want to blame a girl for wanting to meet an idol with absolutely no clue what else would transpire?

No I blame her for assuming that nothing else would transpire and not having the sense to question whether A) It was really him or B) It was going to be safe.

You say I can't speculate but then you make the assumption there was nothing consentual. If it wasn't consentual he'd be getting done for rape. He's just getting prosecuted for sexing a minor.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No I blame her for assuming that nothing else would transpire and not having the sense to question whether A) It was really him or B) It was going to be safe.

You say I can't speculate but then you make the assumption there was nothing consentual. If it wasn't consentual he'd be getting done for rape. He's just getting prosecuted for sexing a minor.

-AC

She's in the 8th grade. You honestly, honestly think she'd know any better? Christ.

Besides, according to the report, she knew it wasn't him, since he claimed to be an impersonator, so I'd assume she'd think it was cool to meet him anyway. She finds out it really IS him, she's compromised/forced into a situation. Take into account, again, a 14 year old girl and a 39 year old multiple offender/drug addict. Who's going to prevail in this sort of encounter?

I think your speculation is off. I'm not making any speculation, really, since the police reports clearly stated he was guilty of aggrevated sexual assault, which by definition means he used physical violence/or weapon(s) with an intent to cause bodily harm in the obtainment of sexual gratification. On top of THAT, the intentional enticement of a minor for sexually deviant purposes, the kidnapping, which he wouldn't be charged with unless she was taken against her will, unless there's such a thing as a consensual abduction? Maybe the cops weren't fans of Dope/Murderdolls/Static-X, and were just looking to pin these allegations on him without proof?

They aren't going to convict him of rape, since the "consent" was for nothing more than a rendevouz. They would have to have had transcripts documenting anything other than a rendevouz to nab him on said charge. That's why he's getting a wrap for aggravated sexual assault.

Like I said, again, pretend you're a 14 year old girl standing infront of a 6'0 drug addicted felon. You have no choice BUT to consent to something when you don't have any other options.

Like I already said - shes a child - and she acted like a child, since thats all she is.

She is not guilty one here - she is just a child.

Back to the "she's just a child" theory.

She's a teenager. Legally, she's a child. Mentally she should know that meeting up with people on the net isn't safe.

I understand what you're saying, it's not like she could say "sorry mate, don't wanna have sex." I completely agree, hence me saying he was wrong. However, I don't believe he is totally to blame. You're saying she may have snuck out, well then there you go. Why is there ultra defense? She should have been more careful. If I was going to meet someone I idolised the FIRST thing I'd do is tell my parents, if I was of illegal age.

-AC

Thing is, Tripp CAN be convicted for rape -- statutory rape, at least, because she's only 14 and in the US, age of consent ranges between 16-18. Legally, the girl CAN'T consent if she's under that age.

I must say, though, all involved in this are idiots. Tripp for meeting and having sex with a 14 year old, the girl for going to meet someone on her own, and her parents for not know what she was doing.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Back to the "she's just a child" theory.

She's a teenager. Legally, she's a child. Mentally she should know that meeting up with people on the net isn't safe.

I understand what you're saying, it's not like she could say "sorry mate, don't wanna have sex." I completely agree, hence me saying he was wrong. However, I don't believe he is totally to blame. You're saying she may have snuck out, well then there you go. Why is there ultra defense? She should have been more careful. If I was going to meet someone I idolised the FIRST thing I'd do is tell my parents, if I was of illegal age.

-AC

Let me say this again - she is a child!

But she is 14 years old, and for that reason she doesnt think like you do. If YOU were meeting someone YOU would tell your parents. Shes 14 and she doesnt think like that - if she did, she would see the stupidity of her actions and thus she wouldnt have done what she has.

He is totally to blame - he knew what he was doing - he knew she was 14.

Thats like saying a rape victim is guilty for being raped because she wore mini skirt.

Jesus Christ, im sat here listening people defending a pheadophile. Unbeliavable!

Yep a peadophile IS what he is, if this girl was only 14. He is 38 right..?
That is disgusting. A fourteen year old and a Fourteen year old...
Well, still technically illegal but not as morally reprehensible and sicking as a 38-year-old... Hence the term peadophile- A sick fu**er who takes advantage of kids, preying on them.
Regardless of who was "stupid", regardless of how "willing" the girl may have been, the fact that this arsehole is into sleeping with kids and uses seemingly premeditated deceptive net pervery to do this too already makes it clear IMHO along with the other charges that this guy has combined with the guys alledged prior form, id say its time for jail time and a bloody good kicking in my book. HE could've averted this by not arranging a meeting. HE could've not shown up. He was ultimately in control by the sound of it, and should be held accountable.

"But she is 14 years old, and for that reason she doesnt think like you do. If YOU were meeting someone YOU would tell your parents. Shes 14 and she doesnt think like that - if she did, she would see the stupidity of her actions and thus she wouldnt have done what she has."

So her actions were stupid yet they are in no way relevant to this case? It's in no way, her fault? Despite her actions being stupid? Funny that.

Your rape comment is completely irrational. Nothing I am saying is as drastic as saying a woman deserves rape for wearing a mini skirt. Once again you blow everything out of proportion WHILE missing my point entirely. Way to go Milla, seems to be quite a habit.

I'm not saying she deserves what she got, nor am I defending him. Get that right.

As for calling him a paedophile, give me a goddamn break. The guy did something wrong and I'm by no means defending him. However, he doesn't pray on underaged kids all the time does he? He doesn't make it his habit, it's not his aim. I'm sure if she were legal he'd have done the exact same thing. The thing that makes me crack up is that due to this ONE case, you and Sadako brand the man a serial paedophile. Who do you think you are?

Don't throw around the label of paedophile, once attached it can't easily be removed. Michael Jackson's reputation is absolutely obliterated now because of people like you branding him something that he probably isn't, before taking into consideration that you might be wrong.

"HE could've averted this by not arranging a meeting. HE could've not shown up."

She could have done both of the same things. Oh but wait, she's 14, she's a "child". She's got the get out of jail free card.

Pfft.

-AC

"However, I don't believe he is totally to blame"

Yes he is. He knowingly broke the law and took advantage of a young, underage girls admiration she had for him. He is entirely to blame.

"The guy did something wrong and I'm by no means defending him. However, he doesn't pray on underaged kids all the time does he?"

Doesn't matter if he does it all the time, he did it one time, that's all it takes to become a bonified pedophile.

"She could have done both of the same things. Oh but wait, she's 14, she's a "child". She's got the get out of jail free card."

Yes, children can't be held accountable for all of their actions, their minds aren't developed fully and thus are going to make bad decisions. There is a reason children get special priviledges when it comes to laws and punishments, their minds aren't capable of constant rational thought.

Bottom line, he took blatant advantage of this girl and he is soley to blame.

As a result of her admiration she blindly met up with someone in an OBVIOUSLY dangerous situation without informing anyone. It wasn't like her parents said "No meeting guys on the net" and as a result she snuck out.

People need to stop using her age as an excuse.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
As a result of her admiration she blindly met up with someone in an OBVIOUSLY dangerous situation without informing anyone. It wasn't like her parents said "No meeting guys on the net" and as a result she snuck out.

People need to stop using her age as an excuse.

-AC

Why? Age is completely relevent here, your logic is flawed to the point of being silly AC.

Speaking of silly. Here is why my age argument stands because people, as you are, get carried away.

"Yes, children can't be held accountable for all of their actions, their minds aren't developed fully and thus are going to make bad decisions. There is a reason children get special priviledges when it comes to laws and punishments, their minds aren't capable of constant rational thought."

She's 14. Not 4....14.

How many people here can truly say that at 14 their minds were "not developed properly". She's not mentally handicapped, nor an infant. She's 14. I've never met a 14 year old as incapable as you are making them out to be.

You're acting as if she could make none of her own decision. 14 is only two years away from being of consentual age in England. At 14 your body is already well into the maturing stages, how can you claim that minds aren't developed enough at 14, to make decisions?

-AC

Well if your theory of a 14 year old being completely able to make constant rational decisions was sound, then the age of consent would be 14 -- It isn't, it's 18 or 16 for the most part, and there's a reason for that. HOwever, this took place in America so the age of consent is 18, thus she is 4 years away from being legal, 4 years is a long time for a mind to develop into adulthood.

At 14 people are still developing, both mentally and physically and are more likely to make bad decisions because of said developments.

If at 14 I'd met Angelina Jolie on the internet and she wanted to meet up with me... for a start completely doubt it was her, but after confirmation I'd be bloody ecstatic and tell all my friends, and damn why wouldn't I wanna **** her, though underage, at the time I wouldn't have thought "no, I'm too young to have sex with my idol"

difference being she probably wouldn't wanna have sex with a 14 year old... he musta been desperate 😖

I never said she was capable of constant and impeccable rationality.

I said at 14 you are conscious ENOUGH to know danger when it's slapping you in the face.

The fact that it's 18 there and 16 here doesn't mean her mind is gonna take longer to develop. She's still 14 with a healthy mental structure. She's not mentally handicapped, she's not insane. You talk about 14 year olds like they've just shot out of pre school. More likely to make bad decisions, yes. Undeveloped brains? Come off it.

Idol or not, you should know that you don't meet with people on the net, by yourself at that age. Or without telling people where you're going.

-AC

"I said at 14 you are conscious ENOUGH to know danger when it's slapping you in the face."

Not always. She was obviously naive and didn't come to grips with the possible consequences of her actions. This is likely a reprocussion of her age, and the mentallity of a star struck 14 year old who is going to meet someone she admires who is in a rock band she likes.

"The fact that it's 18 there and 16 here doesn't mean her mind is gonna take longer to develop."

No, it means it's not deveoped to the point of full maturity yet, and isn't as capable as it would be if she was 18 years old.

"She's still 14 with a healthy mental structure. She's not mentally handicapped, she's not insane."

Yeah? I never said she was.

"You talk about 14 year olds like they've just shot out of pre school. More likely to make bad decisions, yes. Undeveloped brains? Come off it."

I talk about them as if they're kids, which they are. And as such, their minds aren't as capable of rational and reasonable decisions as an 18 year old mind. Especially when it comes to sexual activity and consequences of such.