Storm vs. Dr. Doom

"But that's less effective than an actual forcefield. He's not encircling his body in anyway - he's putting his hand up and repelling the energy. The repel spell isn't a good option against an omnidirectional like Storm, or someone who can effect environmental changes."

Yes but........his shield, as proven, isn't a non factor. Like someone claimed.

"We did? Which one?"

The conjuring up of an attack in his forcefield.

Since that's the only way she'd attack him effectively.

-AC

Ah, yes. It's all internal - "weather" implies a lot of options.

Storm's pretty good. She has chance.

No, you see.

That's provided she can work internally. If she can't it doesn't matter if she could do 90 things inside the shield. If she can't get in, she can't do them.

-AC

But the repel spell is a worse option against an omnidirectional attack like Storm, not a better one.

His tech shield is as much a factor as always. Maybe she can bypass it. Maybe not. The repel spell won't add anything to that.

Exactly my point.

Storm's whole fight depends on maybe or maybe not. Doom's doesn't. He has more ways to kill her off than she does of him. In this fight.

-AC

I thought we already established that Storm could probably, but not certainly, affect Doom though his shield. And I thought we also established that if Storm is unable to do so, then she can't hit him and therefore she loses? None of this adds anything to that.

Not all shields are created equally!

True - but she's done it with at least four different kinds of shields. What that implies is that the shields have no bearing on her ability to affect weather, so it doesn't matter WHAT kind of shield it is, as long as it contained an atmosphere inside of it, Storm can affect it.

And...less we forget GalacticStorm's discovery, Storm has beaten Doom already.

Let's just hope he doesn't learn from his mistakes.

"Let's just hope he doesn't learn from his mistakes."

It's something he does better than most people.

The point Arachnoid Freak proved, is that he is of better magical capability than you claim also.

So can no longer rule out magical shield possibility as much as you'd like to.

Away from shields, there's more circumstantial combat evidence to say Doom could kill her.

-AC

Originally posted by demigawd
And...less we forget GalacticStorm's discovery, Storm has beaten Doom already.

Doom mind switches with her. Doom wins.

But his magic capability had nothing to do with actual capabilities. He owed it completely to technology. I can't see him effectively using magic against Storm, since he's not a magician.

I'm still ruling out the magical shield because he's still never created one. He learned a few counter-spells in a tournament. *shrug*.

As for the circumstantial evidence - well, going by comics, Storm could overload his shields like she did last time (hey, maybe his shields just don't get along with electricity) and then fry him. Comic reference and all that.

Meh. I can see a comic battle between the two of them written either way and I wouldn't ask for my money back.

Well seeing as he purposefully overcharges his suit too....

Either way, there's only one way Storm can mount an attack. Through the shield. Doom can attack multiple, fatal ways from under it.

"Doom mind switches with her. Doom wins."

It really is that easy.

-AC

I guess his overcharging of the suit doesn't agree with her overcharging of it, and it gets over-over-charged, which makes it go bye-bye. I can't speculate until I read the issue itself, but I believe GalacticStorm, so I accept that it happened. And if that's the case, then we're really no longer even limited to the "through the shield" option that we spent 13 out of the last 15 pages arguing.

"Doom mind switches with her. Doom wins"

It really is that easy.

So Doom mind switches and becomes Storm, just as Storm (now in Doom's body) finally nails Doom (now in Storm's body).

Who really wins that? lol

Doom would win from a mind switch. He'd finally learn about what he could never understand: Woman.

storm has multiple ways of attacking doom as well. Why do people always assume lightnings the only attack she gonna use. She could overload Dr Dooms shield with a barrage of lightning. (One bolt did it last time but lets take into consideration improved technology) She then has a number of elemental weapons at her disposal. She could pin him down with winds sheathe him ice to act as a superconductor and then return to lightning to finish blow his brains out. Or she could simply suck the oxygen from the air around him to knock him out. She would also be able to see the energy fields at work within dooms armor and with his shields down she could manipulate them for a variety of effects. You want proof of this capability check out out Xtreme xmen around the time of that alien invasion of madripoor or check out Gambits last solo comic

Then he goes home in Storm's body to "experiment", leaving Storm in a massive suit of armor and a whole country at her command.

Fair exchange. 🙂

"She then has a number of elemental weapons at her disposal. She could pin him down with winds sheathe him ice to act as a superconductor and then return to lightning to finish blow his brains out. Or she could simply suck the oxygen from the air around him to knock him out. She would also be able to see the energy fields at work within dooms armor and with his shields down she could manipulate them for a variety of effects."

This is all a rather large assumption. If it were as easy as laying out a scenario that we were all happy with would this be a 15 page thread? No. She's not getting his shield down, stop treating it like a non-factor.

"Then he goes home in Storm's body to "experiment", leaving Storm in a massive suit of armor and a whole country at her command. Fair exchange."

Now that's something I wouldn't put past Doom haha. Must ge lonely in that castle eh? EH? You know....

Anyway you "believe Galactic Storm". For someone who demands references and stuff, I find it weird that it's come down to taking his word.

-AC