which mutants are omega level??

Started by Cosmic Flame65 pages

As would be Franklin Richards.

So from what I can discern basically it must be someone who manipulates psionically matter/energy/time/reality as a requisite and has no limits to that power as a requisite... both not one or the other... it can't be someone like Cypher whose power (when he was alive) although having no limits (since he can translate any language) wouldn't be classified as omega and it can't be someone who manipulates matter etc but has limits to their ability.

From the known official omega's it seems like usually it's an amped up version of TK and/or TP usually with special application.
e.g. Kid Omega = omega TP, Iceman = omega TK to stop atomic movement and "TP" to exist as consciousness in water, Elixir = omega TK to rearrange matter to heal, and Jean = omega TP/TK to anything and everything.

Storm can psionically control weather movements also. And Magneto too. Let's see, here is my list of omegas:

Jean Grey

Elix

Iceman

Kid Omega

Storm

Franklin Richards

X-Man

Cable

Magneto

Polaris

Scarlet Witch

Mikhail Rasputin

(possibly) Exodus

You forgot Rachel, Dark Crawler. And I think Storm is a possible, but not a definite.

Jean Grey
Elixir
Iceman
Kid Omega

Storm - maybe... though I'm not convinced yet
Franklin Richards - likely
X-Man, Cable, Rachel Summers - damn alternate reality kids... yeah
Magneto - I'd say he's peaked so probably not
Polaris - possibly
Scarlet Witch - likely
Mikhail Rasputin - likely although disappeared
Exodus - likely although disappeared
Gambit - no longer possible but would have been
Jubilee - 😆 😆 😆

I wonder what'll happen with all this doubting of Storm's omegality. As if I didn't know.

I'd say Psylocke's brother Jamie? is also Omega. I think he's a reality warper too. He just resurfaced and is dragging Rachel and Betsy around outside of reality since Wanda has just screwed it up. He is also the one who resurrected Betsy with his powers.

I'd say any offspring of Scott and Jean Grey/Jean Grey Clone, (Rachel, Cable, Xman etc...) is probably Omega.

Mr. Sinister dedicated hundreds of years of research to finding the DNA mixture to make a perfect mutant and he found it in a Summers/Grey combination. That's why all their kids come out uber powerful or with uber potential.

Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
You forgot Rachel, Dark Crawler. And I think Storm is a possible, but not a definite.

Oh yeah, Rachel is an omega too.

Hyperstorm, son of Franklin Richards and Rachel is an omega too. But he is not mainstream.

Apocalypse's "The Twelve" and his prime host - X-Man, are all omega

Apocalypse collected the mutants he required to carry out his plan: Cyclops, Phoenix, Cable, Professor X, Storm, Iceman, Magneto, Polaris, Bishop, Sunfire, the Living Monolith and Mikhail Rasputin.

The Twelve were linked to a machine that would channel their awesome energies into Apocalypse, allowing him to absorb the body of X-Man, a time-tossed teenager possessed of vast telepathic and telekinetic power. As his teammates fell around him, a powerless Cyclops shoved X-Man out of the draining circuit, merging with Apocalypse to create a new evil entity.

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Originally posted by HarmoNiC FLo
Apocalypse's "The Twelve" and his prime host - X-Man, are all omega

Apocalypse collected the mutants he required to carry out his plan: Cyclops, Phoenix, Cable, Professor X, Storm, Iceman, Magneto, Polaris, Bishop, Sunfire, the Living Monolith and Mikhail Rasputin.

The Twelve were linked to a machine that would channel their awesome energies into Apocalypse, allowing him to absorb the body of X-Man, a time-tossed teenager possessed of vast telepathic and telekinetic power. As his teammates fell around him, a powerless Cyclops shoved X-Man out of the draining circuit, merging with Apocalypse to create a new evil entity.

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Cyclops, Bishop, Sunfire, Monolith and Professor X are not omegas.

Why would they be picked as the twelve among the other omegas?

They just had a specific set of powers Apocalypse needed. Not all are omegas, those Darkcrawler named as not are not omegas and Polaris, Magneto and Storm are debatable.

Magneto controls the earths magnetic field, hes omega. storm controls the weather, shes omega

Originally posted by HarmoNiC FLo
Magneto controls the earths magnetic field, hes omega. storm controls the weather, shes omega

How does that make them Omega? Even if they are Omega, they are barely Omega.

Magneto controls more than magnetic fields.

Magneto has control over the EM spectrum but his forte is magnetism. I'd say he does have limits to his potential/abilities though and at his age he has reached the peak of his abilities.. so imo not an omega.

Imo the wormhole incident was I think more an example of Wanda's ability than Magneto's. The events of HoM lead me to believe Wanda is an omega.

This talk of limits is really misleading. Everyone has a peak.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=3815809

In the MU not everyone has a relative peak. You could say Jean Grey has peaked as Phoenix, but then her abilites dwarf every other mutants so much that in relation to them her peak is infinity.

From what I understand there are two requisites of being an omega, the nature of the mutant power and the ultimate limitations of the progression of that power.

1) Their mutant power involves the manipulation of energy, time, reality, matter on an atomic scale or a combination of the aforementioned.
2) Omega mutant abilities have unlimited potential to expand to be inconceivably powerful.

The power does not need to necessarily be destructive e.g. Josh Foley/Elixir manipulates organic matter to heal and his abilities have unlimited potential.

Cypher had no limits on his ability to translate languages. Forge theoretically has no limits on what he can build. They would not be considered omegas though.

Magneto can manipulate energy, and is incredibly skilled in the use of his abilities. Elixir manipulates matter, and is not very skilled in the use of his abilities. But Elixir is an omega while Magneto is not because Magneto has peaked while Elixir may never peak in relation to other mutants.

This is all just my opinion though and I'm open to disagreement.

Jean being phoenix isn't her mutant power though is it? I mean she's genetically linked with it but her power is telekinesis/telepathy and she has a limit to that even though she's omega.

Whats above Omega ?? Herald ?? Entity ?? TOAA ??
Franklin RIchards is NOT OMEGA !!! he is TOAA minus the charisma @@