which mutants are omega level??

Originally posted by Disappear
mister immortal's an offshoot of mutantkind, classified as "homo supreme" as opposed to homo superior. he's essentially evolved beyond death, but he isn't an omega.

also, rachel grey is not an omega mutant. she was labeled an "omega" by a sentinel nearly two decades before the term even had a definition; which was itself written by a different author. to use that as evidence is fallacy, and since she's never had the term applied to her anywhere else, she isn't a confirmed omega.

and i've never even heard of starhawk, and i doubt he's of enough consequence to warrant the labeling.

Originally posted by Disappear
mister immortal's an offshoot of mutantkind, classified as "homo supreme" as opposed to homo superior. he's essentially evolved beyond death, but he isn't an omega.

also, rachel grey is not an omega mutant. she was labeled an "omega" by a sentinel nearly two decades before the term even had a definition; which was itself written by a different author. to use that as evidence is fallacy, and since she's never had the term applied to her anywhere else, she isn't a confirmed omega.

and i've never even heard of starhawk, and i doubt he's of enough consequence to warrant the labeling.

Well Rachel is a confirmed omega according to marvel and Starhawk has MANY impressive feats and if you have no idea who he is, then how can you make a judgement?

mr immortal is omega ..........get over it😄

Originally posted by Disappear
mister immortal's an offshoot of mutantkind, classified as "homo supreme" as opposed to homo superior. he's essentially evolved beyond death, but he isn't an omega.

also, rachel grey is not an omega mutant. she was labeled an "omega" by a sentinel nearly two decades before the term even had a definition; which was itself written by a different author. to use that as evidence is fallacy, and since she's never had the term applied to her anywhere else, she isn't a confirmed omega.

and i've never even heard of starhawk, and i doubt he's of enough consequence to warrant the labeling.

Starhawk is an obscure only partially human character from an alternate timeline with no on panel statement of being an Omega that I'm aware of since as far as I'm aware the term has only been applied to 616 characters.

I'm sure we'll hear of Exiles Hyperstorm beating all of these people because he's "a combination of Xavier, Magneto and Phoenix" soon...

Originally posted by Disappear
mister immortal's an offshoot of mutantkind, classified as "homo supreme" as opposed to homo superior. he's essentially evolved beyond death, but he isn't an omega.

He is HomoSupreme but according to wiki (yes I know its wiki) he is refered to as an Omega in GL X-Mas/

I thought I recalled Mr. Immortal being referred as an Omega in GLA as well. Wasn't it some small creature that said he was an Omega due to his immortality?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Said the same thing about Rachel and Mr Immortal multiple times to no avail.

Starhawk is an obscure only partially human character from an alternate timeline with no on panel statement of being an Omega that I'm aware of since as far as I'm aware the term has only been applied to 616 characters.

I'm sure we'll hear of Exiles Hyperstorm beating all of these people because he's "a combination of Xavier, Magneto and Phoenix" soon...

Starhawk is a mutant, if you havent read up on the character your opinion on it means nothing. He grew up on as planet only for mutants. And yes as I said his power level was explained on panel when he entered the White Hot Room and learned how to use it.

Omega isn't a power level, Davey.

Yes it is, it's a classification of a mutants power.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes it is, it's a classification of a mutants power.

No its not. Omega has jack all squat to do with power.

Omega is about the potential of either the mutant or his/her progeney.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Omega isn't a power level, Davey.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No its not. Omega has jack all squat to do with power.

Omega is about the potential of either the mutant or his/her progeney.

In-verse, yeah.

But out of verse, all it is is the writer's whim. Elixer definitely hasn't shown jack shit for power, and hasn't tapped into any unlimited potential, but he's classified as an omega because the writers said so. On panel.

That's all that matters. If it says so on panel, or in a bio? THEN they're omega. Anything else is conjecture.

Originally posted by Soljer
In-verse, yeah.

But out of verse, all it is is the writer's whim. Elixer definitely hasn't shown jack shit for power, and hasn't tapped into any unlimited potential, but he's classified as an omega because the writers said so. On panel.

That's all that matters. If it says so on panel, or in a bio? THEN they're omega. Anything else is conjecture.

Well yeah if you want to nitpick like that.

Also as is seen with Elixir omega doesnt have to including world shaping powers, and off the charts energy weilding. it just seem to be that in his field he is unparalled, the same way that Mr. immortal cant die no matter what, as was explained to him that even tho cosmics claim to be immortal they usually can still be killed if met with a powerful enuff force

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well yeah if you want to nitpick like that.

Well, obviously, I do. 😛.

Besides, Mr. Immortal is an omega, and he doesn't have unlimited potential. How can you have unlimited potential to....come back to life? Either you do, or you don't. You can't really improve upon it.

Originally posted by Soljer
Well, obviously, I do. 😛.

Besides, Mr. Immortal is an omega, and he doesn't have unlimited potential. How can you have unlimited potential to....come back to life? Either you do, or you don't. You can't really improve upon it.

Potentially he will live for ever. However until forever ends that potential is unreached. Hence his every moment of existance is a testament to his power's Omeganess.

How's that for a completely off the cuff answer?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No its not. Omega has jack all squat to do with power.

Omega is about the potential of either the mutant or his/her progeney.

Which has to do with the potential of their power, in other words, their power level.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Potentially he will live for ever. However until forever ends that potential is unreached. Hence his every moment of existance is a testament to his power's Omeganess.

How's that for a completely off the cuff answer?

Wrong. 😛.

Originally posted by Soljer
Wrong. 😛.

just looked up starhawk. he was around in 1975, more than twenty years before the term "omega" even existed. if he's the small-time, bit player it seems he is, and if he hasn't appeared post-x-men forever, how the hell could he possibly be an omega?

and i still haven't seen any on-panel evidence of mister immortal being an omega. he's a mutant-esque creature whose genetics make him incapable of dying. what in that makes him an omega, exactly?

and finally, hosting a cosmic being which is the embodiment of life and passion and whatever doesn't temporarily change your genetics, and by corollary, you categorization between alpha and omega.

"if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it still might be a platypus."