Originally posted by Draco69
Who says he can leave the battle? Who says that She-Hulk can't just call the Avengers to help her kick his ass when he comes back?Subduing isn't a win. She-Hulk would get out of anything he manages to throw at her. The only thing that could hold her is an adamantium cage.
no-one said he could leave the battle..... just like no-one said he couldn't (except you) but it is still between spider-man and she-hulk, not the avengers
like yourself i'm not convinced either could get a decisive victory, but subduing is a win...... i don't mean subduing for like 10 seconds until she-hulk rips the webs or whatever, but if he actually "subdued" subdued her (or vice versa) i'd call that a win
Originally posted by Never
Never said it did, now did I? You were the one running here with the "matter of fact" tee-shirt. You were wrong.
I was wrong. I admitted it. YOU however refuse to admit you're wrong on any case. Double standards.
Originally posted by Never
And you ASSUMED that is what I was referencing -- at any rate, he lifts FAR more than Hawkeye, and Hawkeye INJURED him, disproving/countering your posit that a Class 10 character cannot "hurt" a Class 100 character. It does not matter how strong you are.
You're getting ridiculous. She-Hulk has withstood cannon fire, blows from Ultron, Hyperion, Wonder Man and Thor. Spider-Man cannot hurt her. She's nigh invulnerable. This is from the OHOMU 2004 : "By and large, She-Hulk is impervious to injury, pain and disease: Her skin is capable of withstanding extremes of temperature, as well as tremendous stresses and impacts without puncture wounds or lacerations. And She-Hulk's highly efficient physiology renders her immune to all terrestrial diseases." You're up against the wall. Spider-Man CANNOT hurt her.
Originally posted by Never
Count Nefaria, if he so chose, would turn She-Hulk into a puddle of green bile if he so chose. So would Thor. Wonder Man actually is more on par with the two. Thor and Count Nefaria are WAY out of her league. I NEVER said that it did not occur. I said, quote, that it is an "exaggeration."
Of course Count Nefaria, Wonder Man, Thor would wipe the floor with She-Hulk. But does that mean that Spider-Man would defeat She-Hulk? NO. In your sense, Spider-Man would last alot less longer than these three than She-Hulk would.
Originally posted by Never
Yeah, and Juggernaut walked through Thor's GEB. Venon withstood Juggernaut's punches. Hello hyperbole.
Juggernaut was "defeated" because he was stupid enough to walk in to a cement pit. Was he knocked out? No. Did he get out eventually? Yes.
Venom withstood Juggenaut's punches because of his elasticity. Spider-Man could only defeat Venom by using sonics or help from his allies. This does nothing to help your case.
Originally posted by Never
And I SWEAR someone said a "high-caliber rifle" slug to the eye HURT She-Hulk -- maybe I misread that?
High Caliber Rifle in the eye would hurt anyone. She-Hulk was merely stunned. Her healing factor compensated for it. Don't compare a AK-47 rifle bullet shot at 512 mph to Spider-Man's punch to the eye.
Originally posted by Never
Yes, he can HURT her. I NEVER said he WOULD defeat her.
Spider-Man cannot hurt She-Hulk with his own strength. This is as ridiculous as saying Spider-Man could hurt Superman. If you're saying that Spidey would never defeat She-Hulk then you agree with me. It's a draw. You've been arguing for nothing.
Originally posted by Scoobless
no-one said he could leave the battle..... just like no-one said he couldn't (except you) but it is still between spider-man and she-hulk, not the avengers
like yourself i'm not convinced either could get a decisive victory, but subduing is a win...... i don't mean subduing for like 10 seconds until she-hulk rips the webs or whatever, but if he actually "subdued" subdued her (or vice versa) i'd call that a win
Subdue with what? An adamantium cage out of nowhere? Get real. Spider-Man would need extraordinary luck and something powerful enough to subdue her. He wouldn't be able to find anything.
Originally posted by Draco69Rino can bench pess 85 tons She Hulk 75 tons now and she has gottin stronger it use to be less.Read the first secret wars.In wear spidey that girl that She hulk could'nt he did have the venom sought though.Spider-man beat Wonder Women befor in the second Superman Spider-man comic.
Dude She-Hulk is a LAWYER. She's anything but stupid. And she's way stronger than the Rhino.
Originally posted by Draco69
Spider-Man cannot hurt She-Hulk with his own strength. This is as ridiculous as saying Spider-Man could hurt Superman. If you're saying that Spidey would never defeat She-Hulk then you agree with me. It's a draw. You've been arguing for nothing.
he has hurt the hulk before though............. much to his own surprise, it was just after he thought MJ had died and the hulk was suspected of causing a plane crash and was in town,they fought for a while, spidey was doing his bouncing thing, then at one point hulk says something along the lines of "ow, puny bug man hurt hulk" to which spidey replies "REALLY?...... i mean yeah... and there's more to come" (or something similar)
The moment the She Hulk lands a punch on Spiderman, he's through. She is a good fighter: that I can assure you.. She beat the Champion of the Universe; something Spiderman could only dream of. She's way more durable and has alot more stamina. She is "invulnerable to pain or injury" according to the Marvel Encyclopedia. She-Hulk is actually pretty fast, (though she isn't as fast as Spiderman or her cousin The Hulk,) and she can jump much better than Spiderman.
Draco has hit the nail right on the head. Iron man would side with She-Hulk first, and if were calling allies, She-Hulk could call in the Human Torch. One super-nova blast, and New York is without a Spiderman.
She-Hulk is durable enough to ignore any of Spiderman's attacks, and keep on swinging. Spiderman may evade her attacks, but he will eventually tire, and long before the She-Hulk does. The moment he screws up and takes one of those green fists to the face, She-Hulk wins.
I ran across a comic not long ago were in witch spider-man fought hulk.Spidey hit him with 40 of his strongest pucnhes in under 20 seconds.Not only did it hurt Hulk it knocked the wind rite out of him hulk was on the ground and send he was tired and dizzy.He got back in a minute but had comed down by then.In the the book it said he whure down hulk throw the long battle and so many punchs so faster tired him out and him bing dizzy could no longer stay mad.To the peaple that say one and spidey is out tell me this has he never ben hit by the stonger Rino who can lift 85 tons to She Hulk's 75 tons. He has been hit by Rino,Ting,Colossus and the hulk and got the Hulk and got back up.Some some others are Jugg head the blob and Ironman.