Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Is that english your posting in Blade Cutter? Give an issue number. I have access to almost every comic book Hulk has ever been in.She Hulk's MINIMUM is 75 tons. She can lift way more than that.
Thank God. Cosmic Cube, I give the reins to you. I'm tired of repeating the blatantly obvious to these Spidey fanboys.
Originally posted by Draco69
I was wrong. I admitted it. YOU however refuse to admit you're wrong on any case. Double standards.
Never been wrong in any discussion with you. Hardly a "double standard."
You're getting ridiculous. She-Hulk has withstood cannon fire, blows from Ultron, Hyperion, Wonder Man and Thor. Spider-Man cannot hurt her. She's nigh invulnerable. This is from the OHOMU 2004 : "By and large, She-Hulk is impervious to injury, pain and disease: Her skin is capable of withstanding extremes of temperature, as well as tremendous stresses and impacts without puncture wounds or lacerations. And She-Hulk's highly efficient physiology renders her immune to all terrestrial diseases." You're up against the wall. Spider-Man CANNOT hurt her.
LoL @ "up against a wall." Yes he can hurt her.
Of course Count Nefaria, Wonder Man, Thor would wipe the floor with She-Hulk. But does that mean that Spider-Man would defeat She-Hulk? NO. In your sense, Spider-Man would last alot less longer than these three than She-Hulk would.
Did I say it meant Spiderman would hurt her? NO. You threw their names out there as if she withstood their all. She didn't.
Juggernaut was "defeated" because he was stupid enough to walk in to a cement pit. Was he knocked out? No. Did he get out eventually? Yes. Venom withstood Juggenaut's punches because of his elasticity. Spider-Man could only defeat Venom by using sonics or help from his allies. This does nothing to help your case.
LoL, Venom cannot withstand Juggernaut's punches PERIOD. More random (and WRONG) interpretations.
High Caliber Rifle in the eye would hurt anyone. She-Hulk was merely stunned. Her healing factor compensated for it. Don't compare a AK-47 rifle bullet shot at 512 mph to Spider-Man's punch to the eye.
You're wrong, it would not hurt "anyone." First you said she was HURT, now you say she was STUNNED. Wow, in 3 more posts I bet you'll say she wasn't hurt at all. And um er uh who compared his PUNCH to an AK-47 rifle shot? Care to quote where I made the comparison?
Spider-Man cannot hurt She-Hulk with his own strength. This is as ridiculous as saying Spider-Man could hurt Superman. If you're saying that Spidey would never defeat She-Hulk then you agree with me. It's a draw. You've been arguing for nothing.
Yes he can. Hahahah @ it being a draw because YOU say so.
how can he beat someone who will prolly not even feel his punches is as smart or maybe a little less. she hulk gets stronger by the minute and if he does manage to hurt her then she will just heal. she hulks minimun strength is seven times that os spiderman. also she isn't slow like evryone says she is- she can move at the speen of a human- maybe faster cause her legs are stronger.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Is that english your posting in Blade Cutter? Give an issue number. I have access to almost every comic book Hulk has ever been in.She Hulk's MINIMUM is 75 tons. She can lift way more than that.
Okay, then access Marvel Team-Up 27, Marvel Fanfare 47, Amazing Spiderman #381-382, Amazing Spiderman #328 (with Spiderman punching Hulk in the stomach (who HAPPENS to be the SAME starting strength of SHE-HULK) and saying "Now who's the strongest one there is?"😉, Amazing Spiderman #119, Amazing Spiderman #120, Marvel Special Edition "Spiderman and The Hulk" #1 AND #2.
How about that?
Originally posted by stormfront13
well anyway how can he beat someone who is clearly out matched when it comes to strenght and invulnerbility??
how can he do it?......... probably not much differently than the ways he beat titania, rhino, morlun (well..... maybe not THAT way) and all the many, many other people he has beaten who are way stronger than him, with speed, timing, skill, intelligence and luck
Originally posted by stormfront13
k he can't hurt her and if he does then she will heal. if she tries to throw something she can dodge cause she ain't slow, or catch it, or just punch it. she gets stronger by the minute so she will get stronger. at the most it will prolly take two or three hits.
there aren't many people on marvel earth fast enough to be certain of scoring any hits on spidey, she hulk is not one of them
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
She Hulk's MINIMUM is 75 tons. She can lift way more than that.
you may want to rephrase this......... how can her minimum be 75 tons?........ does that mean she can't lift anything weighing less than that?
smartass
she hulk is da bomb but spidey is better thnk about it when have you ever seen spiderman loose he doesn't loose and spider fights hulk all the time and thanos and rhino please healing factor doesn't mean shit hes going to figgure some way to kill her spidey is to smart for that green sexy ho got it spidey is da man
I know its already been mentioned..but SM has fought and defeated Titania soundly on two seperate occassions...once in Secret Wars...and once in his own comic with cosmic power. For those of you who didn't know, Titania is She Hulk's nemesis..and she was initially stronger than her. She can lift a minimum...errhem.."maximum"..of 85 tons...
The first time Spidey fought Titania..he didn't have any added power up..and he defeated her rather soundly using his speed, strength, agility..etc...etc..in fact he beat her up so badly...that there was a time when Titania was afraid to fight SM..I guess you could say she had "arachnaphobia"..(haha me so funny..)
So anyway I could definately see SM defeating She Hulk in a similar fashion...it definately wouldn't be as easy a battle as people in this thread seem to think....
Originally posted by stormfront13
you are making it seem like she hulk is moving at 1/10 of a mile an hour. she is a lot faster than you think- eventually spidey will tire and become careless which gives her the oppurtunity to hit him.
she may be quick, but spider-man is faster than her and has his precognitive spider-sense which enables him to dodge anything moving at speeds up to those of bullets and possibly faster
is thee a time limit to this fight?? if not then she hulk definitley wins. she hulk never tires and has a healing factor and gets stronger by the minute. her invulnerability as a lot stronger than his. he can hit her but it prolly won't hurt considering she has been hit with a lot stronger and gotten right back up. if he throws things at her she can catch them cause her strength is more than seven times that of spidey. her strength will build up he will get tired and she will take him down
I'm one of the biggest spider-man fans that there could ever be but I will admit that spideys going to have to be innovative to defeat She-hulk especially if her powers have changed drastically. Old she-hulk would get beat worse than titiana did, easily. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't titiana almost kill She-hulk with her bare hands and then get totally humiliated by spider-man? Spidey is no weakling and he's EXTREMELY fast. Also he's aware of tactics like boxing the ears and such.
They wouldn't show it in comics but She-hulks t*ts would be splattered. maybe. cause shes no slouch.
This...is difficult. On the one hand you have the very powerful She-Hulk. On the other hand, you have the very powerful (though not as much), mad agile, and crazy fast Spiderman.
If Spiderman has taken out Titania like that, then it would be entirely possible to take out She-Hulk in the same way. I never said it would be easy though. Spiderman also knows of pressure points. And I know She-Hulk is mad strong, but if she takes a 15 ton punch (Spiderman has now achieved the fifteen ton mark. Someone from another thread had proof from a new comic, but I forgot what thread it was in. I will look for it) to several pressure points on her body, she will feel it. Definitely.
Though, if She-Hulk were to get her hands on Spidey, then it would be all over. But I don't see that happening, not with his agility and speed. And like mentioned previously, he has taken on and defeated a number of opponents even stronger than She-Hulk, so he obviously knows what he's doing.
And I will admit, Spidey can and will get tired. After a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time though. He can fight for a crapload of time before tiring, which has really helped him in the past with certain opponents. And in the amount of time he has before tiring, I am positive he would figure out a way to beat her.
And one more thing that must be covered in every Spiderman argument.
Spiderman will undoubtedly have knowledge of some sort of event that will be host to some sort of device/instrument that will greatly aid him in battle.
And the funny thing is, in this case, it doesn't matter who's town there in. If there is She-Hulk's region, there is a 100% chance there is something with gamma radiation taking place somewhere in the vicinity. That's just the way that town in. And in they're in Spiderman's New York, there will also always (100% of the time) be something taking place involving gamma radiation in the field of genetics or anything like that.
So, either way, Spiderman has something to aid him in this fight. And the creator of the thread never mentioned that they couldn't use outside sources. Spiderman is WELL-KNOWN for doing such things.
So, the way I see it, he could be hurting her VERY slightly. To the point where it doesn't seem like he is, but he could be. Using those pressure points and unfair fighting tactics. Hey, if he's got to, he will.
And then he would slowly lead her to some sort of event involving gamma radiation to which She-Hulk probably wouldn't suspect a thing as to what was taking place (Not saying she is dumb, she is one of the smartest characters in the Marvel Universe. Spidey is just AWESOME at leading an opponent where he want him/her). And just because Spidey is well...Spiderman...he'll figure out a plan on the fly (Ya know, the ones that he dictates outload to himself to the reader or viewer knows what's going on). He'll figure a way to reverse the polarity of a gamma radiation machine, and of course, in some roundabout way, it will drain She-Hulk of a majority of her strenght before she escapes. And when she does, Spidey will take this time to attack, his strength now actually hurting and doing quite the number on She-Hulk. Then with one final punch, he would uppercut her, knocking her out.
That's just how I see it though. It's open for interpretation. Spiderman wins though. Awesome fight.