Christians going to hell....Yeehaaa!!!!!!

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[QUOTE=3851020]Originally posted by debbiejo
[Quote:Question Twenty Two: If hell is an eternal place of torment, why did Jesus set the captives free from the time of Noah...the same people whom the flood waters were meant to destroy? (I Peter 3:18-20)]
First of all you need to learn how to read the bible other wise you end up confusing yourself by taking scriptures out of context. To understand a scripture you must read the whole chapter and see in what context it is written and also look to whom the letters in the NT is written. Peter is writing to believers scattered in different areas of Asia. Peter is teaching them how to live amongst each other in the face of suffering and tribulation and then compares it to Jesus who suffered on the cross when he died for our sins so that we could be saved. We were captives of sin but were set free by the blood of Jesus. Concerning the part about Noah, he mentions only 8 people surviving.

[Quote: If hell does exist eternally, why would Jesus possess "keys to hell and death," knowing that keys are needed only to unlock something? What need would there be of even having keys if they are not needed to unlock? (Rev. 1:18)]
The keys that Jesus possess is a symbol of authority because by Jesus' death and resurrection he conquered death and now has the authority over death. Rev3:7 explains more about this.

[Quote:Question Twenty Four: Could you ever forgive God for doing that to someone you love? (Rev. 7:17;21:4)] God gave his only Son for us. If you cant honour this gift that God gave us then how can you blame God for the consequences to follow that He has already warned us about.

[Quote: If fire is of the devil's hell, why would Jesus say, "all will be salted with fire?" Why does the writer of Hebrews state, "Our God is a consuming fire?" (Mark 9:49; Heb. 12:29)] Also read Matt3:11 The fire he talks about is the anointing of the Holy Spirit. There are many scriptures referring to the Holy Spirit as a fire burning in us. The fire of God is a symbol of his wrath on the unbelievers and sinners Ps 21:10

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Originally posted by sonnet
[QUOTE=3851020]Originally posted by debbiejo
[Question Twenty Two: If hell is an eternal place of torment, why did Jesus set the captives free from the time of Noah...the same people whom the flood waters were meant to destroy? (I Peter 3:18-20)/Quote]

First of all you need to learn how to read the bible otherwise you end up confused by taking scriptures out of context. To understand a scripture you must read the whole chapter and see in what context it is written and also look to whom the letters in the NT is written. Peter is writing to believers scattered in different areas of Asia. He is teaching them how to live amongst each other in the face of suffering and tribulation and then compares it to Jesus' suffering on the cross when he died for our sins. We were captives of sin but were set free by the blood of Jesus. Concerning the part about Noah, he mentions only 8 people surviving.

[If hell does exist eternally, why would Jesus possess "keys to hell and death," knowing that keys are needed only to unlock something? What need would there be of even having keys if they are not needed to unlock? (Rev. 1:18)/Quote]
The keys that Jesus possess is a symbol of authority because by Jesus' death and resurrection he conquered death and now has the authority over death. Rev3:7 explains more about this.

[Could you ever forgive God for doing that to someone you love? (Rev. 7:17;21:4)/quote] God gave his only Son for us. If you cant honour this gift that God gave us then how can you blame God for the consequences to follow that He has already warned us about.

[ If fire is of the devil's hell, why would Jesus say, "all will be salted with fire?" Why does the writer of Hebrews state, "Our God is a consuming fire?" (Mark 9:49; Heb. 12:29)/Quote] Matt3:11 The fire he talks about is the anointing of the Holy Spirit. There are many scriptures referring to the Holy Spirit as a fire burning in us. The fire of God is a symbol of his wrath on the unbelievers and sinners Ps 21:10

Originally posted by finti
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Re: Christians going to hell....Yeehaaa!!!!!!

Originally posted by KharmaDog
I think it's funny that people who call themselves Christians are filled with so much hate. Do they even pay attention in Sunday School? They preach about the love of Jesus, and then act like complete a**holes!

Take a look at the Westboro Baptist Church Homepage:

http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html

Can you feel the love? If you believe in god and his so called teachings, then act like it and don't be a hypocrite. If you call yourself a Christian and are going to be judgemental, hateful and without love or compassion...THEN GO TO HELL!dev

Those are just hippocritical people who just want your money, people who really love God will spread the word and not disrespect or put anyone down on their beliefs. Although people who are real christians will persist on trying to convert you if you are a different religion. CHRISTIANITY FOR LIFE!

Re: Re: Christians going to hell....Yeehaaa!!!!!!

Originally posted by AdventChild
Those are just hippocritical people who just want your money, people who really love God will spread the word and not disrespect or put anyone down on their beliefs. Although people who are real christians will persist on trying to convert you if you are a different religion. CHRISTIANITY FOR LIFE!

Some Christians unfortunately just do not know how to do what they are suppose to be doing.

That's because they listen to the Pastor.

Some Christians unfortunately just do not know how to do what they are suppose to be doing
what you supposed to do is keep your faith on a personal matter

Re: Re: Christians going to hell....Yeehaaa!!!!!!

Originally posted by AdventChild
Although people who are real christians will persist on trying to convert you if you are a different religion. CHRISTIANITY FOR LIFE!

Isn't that kind of what constitutes a cult?

christianity is a cult

Originally posted by finti
christianity is a cult

One of the characteristics of a cult is that you are required to leave your family and become isolated from the world. The Bible speaks of the great commission that every Christians has and that is to spread the gospel to all of the world. We were definitely not asked to become isolated and live in some secluded little group.

If in the new world(heaven) there is no death or killing, how can there be a hell?

Originally posted by sonnet
One of the characteristics of a cult is that you are required to leave your family and become isolated from the world. The Bible speaks of the great commission that every Christians has and that is to spread the gospel to all of the world. We were definitely not asked to become isolated and live in some secluded little group.

I'm sorry, not trying to offend, but I really can't see the good in trying to shove your beliefs down someone else's throat. As long as they're not hurting anyone, I say let them be. Diversity in all things is what makes the world interesting.

One of the characteristics of a cult is that you are required to leave your family and become isolated from the world
depends on the cult.

some of the definitions of a cult
A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
christianity falls into both of these

I totally agreed with periera! The only clear right we have in life, is the right to choose! With most of the religions, they really want to push it down your thoughts and when you don't look interested enough, they condemn you to hell?

Why can each person not decide for themselves what they want to believe and if they do not want to believe, so be it!

Originally posted by periera
I'm sorry, not trying to offend, but I really can't see the good in trying to shove your beliefs down someone else's throat. As long as they're not hurting anyone, I say let them be. Diversity in all things is what makes the world interesting.

Non taken, Christians do have a obligation to spread the gospel, and to live their lives in such a way that it will testify of Gods love and Jesus's presence in their lives. We are not suppose to force it on anybody meaning that if someone shows no interest, you let them be. Some Christians feel that they should convince people, but the actual convincing takes place within a persons spirit.

Originally posted by sonnet
Non taken, Christians do have a obligation to spread the gospel, and to live their lives in such a way that it will testify of Gods love and Jesus's presence in their lives. We are not suppose to force it on anybody meaning that if someone shows no interest, you let them be. Some Christians feel that they should convince people, but the actual convincing takes place within a persons spirit.

Why then bother the conversation in the first place? Our spirit or inner self is always the guide to our actions! Some people will call is your "little voice"!

Originally posted by alley-t
Why then bother the conversation in the first place? Our spirit or inner self is always the guide to our actions! Some people will call is your "little voice"!

Originally posted by finti
depends on the cult.

some of the definitions of a cult
[B]A system or community of religious worship and ritual.

The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
christianity falls into both of these [/B]

Why do you hate God, and or Jesus so much? or why are you such a disbeliever? you asked for evidence and you have it..... if you pray for something you'll get it depending on what it is.... i think there's a quote that goes something like this " Do all you can, for God will take care of the rest".....and alot of pastors are really bad..... there was a survey i read it said something like 90% of the pastors have watched or seen some type of pornography within the last 6 months..... that's pretty bad... 90% that's freakin alot!!!!!! 😠