Originally posted by peterKSL
Bardock you are contradicting yourself... When I say EVERYONE has their own beliefs, and thus everyone has their OWN absolute truth(s)... I am NOT wrong in this... Offcourse I exclude those who are incapable of thinking..."No everyone has there own belifs...thats true so far...." - I don't understand what you are trying to say... your whole paragraph is crap anyway...
Actually you are contradicting yourself...in saying that everyone has his own absolute truth you say there is more than one Absolute truth ....wtf 😆
Originally posted by Storm
"Something cannot bring itself into existence." Isn' t this an absolutely true statement? In order for something to bring itself into existence, it would have to exist in order to be able to perform an action. But if it already existed, then it isn' t possible to bring itself into existence since it already exists. Likewise, if it does not exist then it has no ability to perform any creative action since it doesn' t exist in the first place.
No, its not an absolute true statement - its based on an observation, that was made a ''fact'' that something cannot do something else. Such statement might be absolutely wrong in 100 or 200 years time.
Originally posted by peterKSL
People only jump in conclusion that there are no absolute truth when after repetition of failures in the search of truth... It's only the fear of the truth, nothing less, nothing more... for if one searches harder, one will eventually find truth...Facts - lil b is a female...
- you have a name...
- you were born from your parents...Why do you or those who want you to go to school if those were utterly rubbish?
The fact that sun rises and sets is also not an absolute truth but an observation fed to us as the fact. Years and years ago, such truth of how the sun sets and rises was complitely different and in that time it was considered the truth and nothing but - just as in 1000 years time, what we call truth now will be possibly discarded.
Sun sets are irrelevant.
The Sun doesn't set or rise purely because it doesn't move.
There are two genders, male and female. You are born one of these.
Don't see the difficulty here. You'll be a female in 50 years time (if you're here) unless you have a sex change. Even still, you were born a female.
Just because there are little absolute truths, doesn't mean everything is observation. Truth's don't lessen with time. The fact that there is a Sun won't demean as time goes on.
-AC
Re: I think, therefore I am
Originally posted by s|m
Do you agree with this?
What that basically means is that your mind cannot exist without a body. To make it more complicated does the mind stop to function when a person dies? The mind is not an on/off switch that you can turn it when you feel like it. It just happens and it all begins with experience. Our experiences shape our way of thinking.
Nope AC, you are wrong we might consider it absolute truth...but we can never be sure that ist actually is the absolute truth. At least there will always be the doubt of our existence and even if you don'T doubt that you can very much doubt if I exist or the sun or anything.
Look can you testify without a doubt that you are really a human (= meat) or isn'T it just possible that you might as well be I don't know maybe energy that just "dreams" all that...or maybe that you are an "alien" in a game, or that you are just imagined by some sort of god....well I know I can't I mean i liek to belive that I am a male human and that I am 18 and what not but sure of that I can't ever be. It might be a part of the absolute truth...it might as well just not. What if you are actually from the future and all what you consider as earth and your surroundings is a simulation of what the past was like ?
This actually was the only good thing aboot the Matrix that it kind of made that Idea belivable....oh and the Secial Effects...except for that the Movie sucked. Watch eXistenZ
Use this thread: Life: -=Reality -OR- Illusion=- to discuss that particular subject.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
No, again. Me being a female is an observation, and open to enterpretation - what you call a female, someone else might not. And me coming from my parents is again not an absolute truth - its an observation - the one that might shift drastically in years time.The fact that sun rises and sets is also not an absolute truth but an observation fed to us as the fact. Years and years ago, such truth of how the sun sets and rises was complitely different and in that time it was considered the truth and nothing but - just as in 1000 years time, what we call truth now will be possibly discarded.
There is a difference in centuries ago and the present... we now have logical prove of it's existence as a fact, and not a out-of-no-where theory...
you see, learning is a wonderful experience where you are in the search for the truth, to gain contentment and curiousity from it is more important than to blame yourself from the foolish judgement you made years ago... We kept our findings, and even our mistakes from ancestral period to this present, and for the future to come... we don't just discard our view on the truth...
It is through the 5 senses which we gained our logic... Observation is one of them, so, why not? We first call facts by our 5 senses after we think of it, don't we? You single human observation out from the absolute truth just because humans make mistakes all the time don't you?
It is not for us to determine, or create to have what we seek, it is to discover, for everything is already on earth... We are just one of them, playing the game, experiencing life...