I think, therefore I am

I have never really thought about it but now that I am, I disagree with that statement. Is it safe to assume that because you are thinking therefore you exist and those that don't think therefore are nonexistent?.Biology has thought us that a living organism that breathes, eat, uses energy for it's metabolism and reproduces is alive. Therefore plants, bacteria, viruses they all are alive, and clearly exist, but do they think as us human do????Therefore that statement is flawed.

At night the plants gravitate near water and conspire.

Originally posted by LordFear
I have never really thought about it but now that I am, I disagree with that statement. Is it safe to assume that because you are thinking therefore you exist and those that don't think therefore are nonexistent?.Biology has thought us that a living organism that breathes, eat, uses energy for it's metabolism and reproduces is alive. Therefore plants, bacteria, viruses they all are alive, and clearly exist, but do they think as us human do????Therefore that statement is flawed.

coz it is more like 'the only sure proof of ppl existence is that they think, coz some that don't exist doesn't think'

and not that 'only beings which think do exist'

regardless of that is he saying that only people who think exist?
either way the criteria of what existence is is not solely based on whether or not you and I think or not. It is much more elaborate and intricate then that.

and it is the other way around
he says that the fact that you think is a proof that you exist.

Descartes concluded that in doubt, we exist.

Indeed, clovie is right ... Descartes doubts everything, he didn't take life or the earth or anything for granted...so he needed something to base his philosophy around...and as such he first said when i doubt everything I must exist or I can't doubt ands so he came to Cogito ergo sum...which he took as proof that he existed. This doesn'T need to be true but that is what he said to start his Philosophies off.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Indeed, clovie is right ... Descartes doubts everything, he didn't take life or the earth or anything for granted...so he needed something to base his philosophy around...and as such he first said when i doubt everything I must exist or I can't doubt ands so he came to Cogito ergo sum...which he took as proof that he existed. This doesn'T need to be true but that is what he said to start his Philosophies off.

The only REAL problem with the basis of philosophy is when you spend your whole life questioning existence, existence passes you by. You miss the little things in life that make life what it is...

Originally posted by Clovie
it is exactly what i wasn't able to explain cry thank you.

No problewm Clovie 😊

Oh and rborn did you ever cionsider that some people mifght like to question everything...maybe that is the little thing that makes their life what it is

Originally posted by Bardock42
No problewm Clovie 😊

Oh and rborn did you ever cionsider that some people mifght like to question everything...maybe that is the little thing that makes their life what it is

Hey how can I be sure that you are not a guy ?.....😆

clovie my point is that I disagree with his basis. The fact that he needed to state that to build his philosophy around I think is false. I don't agree with a direct correlaton between thought and existence. Sorry but I disagree

But Clovie is not argueing for Descartes, she just states what he meant...plus as philosopher you ate least need some base....so what is it for you?

Descartes' problem was that in order to identify an ultimate principle of truth, he needed to find an indisputable basic assumption on which all other knowledge could be based on. Descartes' basis is the doubt.

Yes.......and?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Hey how can I be sure that you are not a guy ?.....😆

Originally posted by LordFear
clovie my point is that I disagree with his basis. The fact that he needed to state that to build his philosophy around I think is false. I don't agree with a direct correlaton between thought and existence. Sorry but I disagree

Originally posted by Reborn Again
The only REAL problem with the basis of philosophy is when you spend your whole life questioning existence, existence passes you by. You miss the little things in life that make life what it is...

So that means I was right when I said that life is all about experience? 😮‍💨

Hold on there, cowboy. Ease that ego.

There is thinking...the rest we don't know.