FF vs. JLA 4 on 4

Originally posted by Wynndar
HAHAHAHA Thats about as likely as Wolverine beating the entire JLA.

Not really. Wolverine can't go intangible. He can't shut down the minds of the entire team while intangible, either.

MM just stands there, intangible. Johnny fires at him, goes through. Thing swings at him, goes through, Reed...uh...stretches at him, goes through. Sue puts up a shield, not sure what to do.

MM says "goodnight" and all four of them go to sleep.

It's really that simple.

of all the opponents the FF have beaten MM doesnt stand a chance...honestly not even the entire JLA is impressive in terms of power when compared FF foes.

I'll give you odds that MM can single-handedly beat most of the FF's foes.

"Because it's fact."

If I can disagree it's not. Check yo 'delf.

"With what? The Flash takes Mr. F out before he can think."

Does he? When?

-AC

hmm...well since the Flash always fights like that in a battle...Reed sees Flash and the JLA coming...he has a television that shows the future by the way...Puts on his Dark Raider outfit and continues to assassinate each memebr of the JLa before they even join the team.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"Because it's fact."

If I can disagree it's not. Check yo 'delf.

"With what? The Flash takes Mr. F out before he can think."

Does he? When?

-AC

At the beginning at the battle. Or rather .000000001 seconds after the battle begins to be more accurate.

Originally posted by demigawd
Not really. Wolverine can't go intangible. He can't shut down the minds of the entire team while intangible, either.

MM just stands there, intangible. Johnny fires at him, goes through. Thing swings at him, goes through, Reed...uh...stretches at him, goes through. Sue puts up a shield, not sure what to do.

MM says "goodnight" and all four of them go to sleep.

It's really that simple.

I'll give you odds that MM can single-handedly beat most of the FF's foes.

Originally posted by Wynndar
hmm...well since the Flash always fights like that in a battle...Reed sees Flash and the JLA coming...he has a television that shows the future by the way...Puts on his Dark Raider outfit and continues to assassinate each memebr of the JLa before they even join the team.

See the Flash coming? How can Reed Richard possibly "see" a man traveling at near-lightspeed?

Originally posted by demigawd
Not really. Wolverine can't go intangible. He can't shut down the minds of the entire team while intangible, either.

MM just stands there, intangible. Johnny fires at him, goes through. Thing swings at him, goes through, Reed...uh...stretches at him, goes through. Sue puts up a shield, not sure what to do.

MM says "goodnight" and all four of them go to sleep.

It's really that simple.

I'll give you odds that MM can single-handedly beat most of the FF's foes.

Wow an intangible telepath..those DC guys r sooo creative...yea the FF have never been able to take an intangible or a telepth.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Wow an intangible telepath..those DC guys r sooo creative...yea the FF have never been able to take an intangible or a telepth.

You lack facts. You haven't given any arguments as to HOW the FF4 can defeat the JLA.

As if a "four-elemental" team is any more creative.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Why would you even be trying to score points? Still sore about something?

Nothing to be sore about, right? Gotcha champ.
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Not sure what you're trying to imply, but ok.

So it stands as this. The reasoning provided that the FF would win seems to consist of, "They're the FF - they're good at beating overwhelming odds. They'll figure something out".

The reasoning provided that the JLA would win seems to consist of, "Flash knocks them out before they can think" "MM knocks them out with one telepathic attack" "GL pounds them with the most powerful weapon in the universe".

Yeah. Seems about even.

Originally posted by Wynndar
hmm...well since the Flash always fights like that in a battle...Reed sees Flash and the JLA coming...he has a television that shows the future by the way...Puts on his Dark Raider outfit and continues to assassinate each memebr of the JLa before they even join the team.

Originally posted by Draco69
See the Flash coming? How can Reed Richard possibly "see" a man traveling at near-lightspeed?

sorry...i see that went right over ur head...Richards can "see" the future via his technology...sometimes the Thing just relaxes in the Baxter Building watching a "TV" that shows the future...and as the Dark Raider, Richards would slaughter every member of the JLA in the most cold and efficient method possible.

"At the beginning at the battle. Or rather .000000001 seconds after the battle begins to be more accurate."

Maybe when it happens we can claim fact.

You can't claim facts where there are none, genius.

"You lack facts. You haven't given any arguments as to HOW the FF4 can defeat the JLA. "

If you mean we haven't done this:

"Flash attack, Reed moves etc" then no, we haven't. Because we're above making up stories that haven't happened to back ourselves up. We're analysing both teams and their abilities.

Get into it.

-AC

Originally posted by Wynndar
sorry...i see that went right over ur head...Richards can "see" the future via his technology...sometimes the Thing just relaxes in the Baxter Building watching a "TV" that shows the future...and as the Dark Rainder, Richards would slaughter every member of the JLA in the most cold and efficient method possible.

Technology? Did the Mr. Fantastic somehow pull this technology out of his ass? Please! Before Reed Richards even THINKS of using his technology he's already out.

Originally posted by demigawd
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Not sure what you're trying to imply, but ok.

So it stands as this. The reasoning provided that the FF would win seems to consist of, "They're the FF - they're good at beating overwhelming odds. They'll figure something out".

The reasoning provided that the JLA would win seems to consist of, "Flash knocks them out before they can think" "MM knocks them out with one telepathic attack" "GL pounds them with the most powerful weapon in the universe".

Yeah. Seems about even.

Does seem uneven doesn't it?

A little like Galactus v FF. I presume you'll see where that's going.

what the hell...u missed the point again...he doesnt have to pull anything outn of his ass...he could see the flash coming a year before the flash attacks...u missed the point.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"At the beginning at the battle. Or rather .000000001 seconds after the battle begins to be more accurate."

Maybe when it happens we can claim fact.

You can't claim facts where there are none, genius.

"You lack facts. You haven't given any arguments as to HOW the FF4 can defeat the JLA. "

If you mean we haven't done this:

"Flash attack, Reed moves etc" then no, we haven't. Because we're above making up stories that haven't happened to back ourselves up. We're analysing both teams and their abilities.

Get into it.

-AC

Please! You're the one "chickening out" now. There is no such thing as fact. Don't try to twist the issue. You always do this. You say that the outcome is indeterminable when you can't win an argument. It's really immature.

Come up with something else besides the "it never happened so we can't judge the outcome of this fight." quote.

Does Reed wear the Dark Raider outfit everyday?

*sigh* flash and MM knocking anyone out is purely ur opinion since they have never faced anyone in the FF. Thats like me saying the Thing would win because he would knock out every member of the JLA, despite their powers.....................in one punch...

They have a habit of doing that Wynndar. They forget that the fight hasn't happened.

-AC

Originally posted by Draco69
There is no such thing as fact.

So that's not a fact then.