Tyrant vs Superman Prime

Originally posted by Beyonder
Regular Supes can already move at the speed of light, so guess what Prime can move at? Prime would still knock Surfer out.

Sence when can normal superman move at light speed ??

And silver surfer can go far beyond that speed , he once went from one side of the galaxy to the other end in seconds.

speed wise i don't think anyone is faster than him.

but he does lack the power to do harm to Superman prime , but i i guess he can suck his energy slowly after all he is a living Sun , that just what i think SS can do.

And ya SS can create Force field also

Originally posted by Beyonder
Okay, but when did he ever create a force field around himself. And even when he goes all out, Prime can easily take Surfer's cosmic blast. Thanos and Tyrant have done this. Odin shrugged it off as well. Absorbing 15,000 years of sunlight in a Super Sun puts his durability equal to or above Thanos, Tyrant, maybe Odin. Surfer is going to do to Prime as much as he's done to Thanos, Tyrant, or Odin - which is nothing.

As for absorbing, Surfer isn't going to have time to absorb 15 thousands of sunlight stored in Prime. He'd get his face pounded. Sure Surfer might posses a variety of powers, but he's still below Prime in power. Thanos' can't do all the neat tricks Surfer can, but that doesn't mean Thanos can't kick his ass.

As for bloodthrust, so Prime is going for bloodlust but Surfer is? If both went into that mode, Surfer would get punked. Regular Supes can already move at the speed of light, so guess what Prime can move at? Prime would still knock Surfer out.

Here's how I see it:

Prime Vs. Thanos - Prime
Prime Vs. Tyrant - Prime slightly
Prime w/ GL ring & Sword Vs. Tyrant (original version) - Tyrant
Prime Vs. Odin - Odin wins. He's not as fast as Prime, but his vast magic can seriously hurt Prime. Furthermore, Odin has more raw power and more tricks than Surfer.

Okay...i know DC science is all messed up and doesnt rely on anything rational...but if Superman absorbed a sun's energy for thousands of years...wouldnt he have only absorbed a tiny fraction of a sun's energy, considering a sun burns for over a billion years? so going against any incarnation of Tyrant, Odin, or even Thanos with a fraction of a sun's power would be an utter joke...Just thought i would point out the flaw in DC reasoning...but oh well...Tyrant and Odin still stomp Prime...in any of their forms...He is still a mortal consiousness...Odin and Tyrant transcend the physical world in terms of power and intelligence...while prime is only quantitatively more powerful than the regular superman.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Okay...i know DC science is all messed up and doesnt rely on anything rational...but if Superman absorbed a sun's energy for thousands of years...wouldnt he have only absorbed a tiny fraction of a sun's energy, considering a sun burns for over a billion years? so going against any incarnation of Tyrant, Odin, or even Thanos with a fraction of a sun's power would be an utter joke...Just thought i would point out the flaw in DC reasoning...but oh well...Tyrant and Odin still stomp Prime...in any of their forms...He is still a mortal consiousness...Odin and Tyrant transcend the physical world in terms of power and intelligence...while prime is only quantitatively more powerful than the regular superman.

Well, the sun gives off energy over billions of years. Every second, solar energy is leaving the sun; however, more energy is created. Would you not agree that solar radiation is like normal radiation and is always immiting energy? Think about it, energy of the sun in one instance is not the same as energy that sun produces over 15,000. It's like the goose that lays the golden; if you kill it and take whatever is left inside the goose's stomach, that amount of golden egg is miniscule compared to the amount of eggs the goose can produce over a life time.

Secondly, Superman only needs the sunlight from thousands of miles away to power himself. You put him inside the Super Sun's core - for over 15,000 years, or 180,000 months, or 780,000 weeks, or 5,475,000 days, or 8,760,000 hours - he's gonna come out beyond his normal self.

Thirdly, normal Superman doesn't have that much solar energy in him does he? And yet he's on Thor's level. IT'S NOT THE SOLAR ENERGY, it's that his body reacts differently when exposed to yellow sunlight, giving him uncanny powers. If you think of it in terms of Prime just being the energy of 15,000 years of sunlight, your looking down the wrong road. Superman has always been an alien from Krypton, who gained super powers with his exposure to yellow sunlight, powers that put him on Thor, GL, MM's levels.

Thanos Vs. Superman - isn't Thanos vs. a small fraction of solar energy; it's Thanos Vs. Superman, who's = < Thor
Thanos Vs. Prime - isn't Thanos Vs. 15,000 years of solar energy; it's Thanos Vs. Prime, who's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Superman or Thor

Don't think of Prime's powers as nothing but a small fraction of the sun. Because an even smaller fraction of energy from a SMALLER SUN gave Clark the power to become Superman. Would you regard normal Superman as nothing but a speck of energy from a yellow sun? If that's the case, Lobo, Orion, GL, Doomsday wouldn't get a knocked about by Supes punches.

YELLOW SUNLIGHT = calalyst for Kryptonians; a.k.a. their spinach.

Superman in Kingdom Come which is only like 30 years in the future is already immune to the effects of Kryptonite. So even if they tried to use it against him, it would not work.

Tyrant gets weaker with every planet that is destroyed so 850 centuries into the future no telling how many planets have been destroyed. It was a checks and balance that Galactus gave himself and Tyrant. So Prime would kick the hell out of Tyrant in the 853rd century... but it would be close earlier in the past.

Originally posted by eleveninches
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I still think prime takes it.

IM RIGHT. YOU'RE WRONG.

SO THERE !!!!

Denial... Sigh... Tyrant takes this.

Since it's become a prime vs SS thread, I'll say this.
Modern day Supes has already shown to have become partially immune to Kryptonite...I highly doubt that it will affect him as Prime.
A quick dip in the sun, powered him up immensely. 15,000 years would put him on ridiculous levels of power.
Surfer drained the Hulk...Hulk does not have a bio matrix. Its debateable whether Surfer can even drain modern supes...let alone prime..even if he could... I believe it would be like when Rogue tried to drain Magneto and Magneto shrugged it off like nothing...
The issue that I have says Prime gained powers from the very edge of time and space far beyond any metahuman ever...every and that he would share them with his ancestors as long as they remained loyal.

A pretty impressive resume'..considering there are some powerful metahumans/mutants around...

Originally posted by Jason8200
Superman in Kingdom Come which is only like 30 years in the future is already immune to the effects of Kryptonite. So even if they tried to use it against him, it would not work.

Tyrant gets weaker with every planet that is destroyed so 850 centuries into the future no telling how many planets have been destroyed. It was a checks and balance that Galactus gave himself and Tyrant. So Prime would kick the hell out of Tyrant in the 853rd century... but it would be close earlier in the past.

Yeah, and that Superman aged. Prime didn't - both are different.

Every planet destroyed? Isn't it every planet Galactus destroyed?

Secondly, this is the Original Tyrant - BEFORE GALACTUS placed that on him. So even if Galactus destroyed all those planets in the DC universe for 15,000 years or what ever, Tyrant wouldn't be effected.

Tyrant kills Prime.

No it is every planet destroyed. Not just the ones Galactus destroyed. He draws his strength from the life force of planets. So therefore if there are fewer planets... he has less strength.

Galactus placed that restriction on him from the very beginning. Not after Tyrant grew power crazy. Galactus made that restriction so he would always have an advantage over him.

Ok well even now in Superman comics it says he is building an immunity to kryptonite.

But if it is the Tyrant from back in the day... Tyrant would win. Current Tyrant would lose to Prime.

Originally posted by Jason8200
No it is every planet destroyed. Not just the ones Galactus destroyed. He draws his strength from the life force of planets. So therefore if there are fewer planets... he has less strength.

Galactus placed that restriction on him from the very beginning. Not after Tyrant grew power crazy. Galactus made that restriction so he would always have an advantage over him.

Ok well even now in Superman comics it says he is building an immunity to kryptonite.

But if it is the Tyrant from back in the day... Tyrant would win. Current Tyrant would lose to Prime.

Yeah, but Tyrant was still match for Galactus. Their fights still destroyed galaxies. As for every planet destroyed, how does planet in DC effect a ruling by Galactus who's part of the MU? Galactus is an essential to the Marvel Universe; he's not an essential or part of the DC universe.