who is better, Vince Carter or Tracy Mcgrady?

braz RU SERIOUS!!!?? t-macs career high is 62 points against the washington wizards and it took him the whole game to do it. no current nba player has ever scored 68 points at the half in a basketball game... wilt chamberlain might have... because he scored 100 points in a single game.

I don't think even he had 68 at the half.

anyways, braz is still horribly wrong.... by the way, who saw the game between the nets and spurs? i know they lost after winning 10 straight but vince had like 9 points in the last 27 seconds, and another 30 point game, which gets his average higher, yet again, this time to 25.8ppg, along with 6rpg, 4apg.

Originally posted by tanjot
anyways, braz is still horribly wrong.... by the way, who saw the game between the nets and spurs? i know they lost after winning 10 straight but vince had like 9 points in the last 27 seconds, and another 30 point game, which gets his average higher, yet again, this time to 25.8ppg, along with 6rpg, 4apg.

But they lost. And according to your logic, stats don't matter if your team doesn't win.

if wins dont matter... then explain the rockets. they've lost with and without him

HAHA. exactly... theyve lost with him and without him... rockets r getting nowhere this year.

Originally posted by Myth

Also, not giving enough effort lowers your credibility. [/B]

i agree completely, Carter gave up on his team in toronto, he is soft, epscially in toronto, i havent been following much in jersey but i doubt he's changed....the guy would just settle for jump shots, he would never drive the lane, it was like he was afraid of contact, and with his athleticism, the last thing he should be doing is settling for jump shots, he's no reggie.....if he got critized by his teammates he would just take it, or cry about it, instead of having a great game, than telling the person that critisize him to shut the **** up, like you said he has no heart....you watch someone like AI play or the pistons and all you see is hustle, Carter doesn't know the meaning of the term

carter does drive teh lane.... but not nearly enough as he should. hes got the potential to be one of the best get to teh basket guys in nba history... hes shown he can finish when he does... he just lacks confidence and courage. and yeh he did lack effort in toronto... so did mcgrady. he left because of vince! imagine if they'd have stayed together. first team outside of the usa to win a championship if they'd have stayed together.

ah well, we got bosh now, and i cant beleve theres been talk of him traded to indy for o'neal. thats just a stupid trade for the raps. babcock has started to show some some promise of being a good gm, if he makes that trade then hes back to being a crap one in my opinion. bosh has all the potential to be a great player, jermaines a great player dont get me wrong... but i dont see him getting THAT much better.

J.O. is awesome, he works hard and is one of the best post up players in the league. He's got the total package, offence, defense, work ethic and heart. All he needs is some talent around him and he would be in the finals.
Bosh has bags of talent and will be a force for years to come, but unless he fills out he isnt gonna be able to dominate the elite PF of the game.

vince has changed, hes averaging about 9 free throws a game... and he does not back down, i know he doesnt drive to the basket as much as he should... but thats because he also has a great shooting ability.

also... vince is a very under rated passer... and draws a lot of double and triple teams. i honestly think he gets double and triple teamed more than t-mac, or wade...

Triple teaming Carter when you still have Kidd and Jefferson to worry about is suicide. I havent seen many Nets games this year, are you sure man?

even with jefferson in the lineup, he does get doubled... but when jefferson wasnt in the lineup the past 2 games, he was double, and triple teamed almost every time he touched the ball.

u guys dont believe me? watch a nets game this season and u will c for urself. i was watching the nets play seattle yesturday, and vince got doubled atleast 7 times in the last 3 minutes of that game.

did you see shaq quadrouple teamed againts the clips last night?

....is that supposed to b a joke....or r u trying to b sarcastic....or what?

i was trying to make a point, and if u watch a nets game u will c that i am right...i was adding to the conversation so dont try to get sarcastic. dont asnwer back until u watch a nets game, not the highlights, the game.

no tanjot, he was quadrouple teamed against the clips. and hes still a beast to stop. carter was quad-teamed in toronto and still scored, he is a great player.

no further debates on carter and t-mac?

the raptors lose a game by 3 points in the final minutes against the clippers!! what a surprise!!