Storm vs Hulk

Yeah, I saw Hulk vs. Gladiator. That was about as gay as Hulk vs. Wolverine. Gladiator should beat Hulk all powers at play just like Hulk should crush Wolverine. I don't know why they use Kallark as a jobber. He's like Marvel's version of Farooq from WWF. Strong, one of the best finishing moves, but always putting over a face or popular heel. Well, actually, I do know why Marvel does it. It's a inside joke for Marvel. They do it to kinda subliminally stick it to DC to show what they think of Kal El. And Hulk's free fall after sonic clapping Gladiator is different from a forced decent from the same altitude. A matter of velocity.

But anyway, if Storm and Hulk fight in a featureless environment with just powers versus powers, and it were a kind of regimented match (KO's/ringouts/submissions), I think there'd be a lot more to consider than the current "Hulk Smash" sentiment.

Thor and Gladiator never use their versatility (or intelligence) to it's fullest potential when displayed fighting Hulk. Hulk's Marvels cash cow (well, besides Wolverine and Spiderman).

With all that you just said in mind, it seems you have to sort of "bend" the rules in Storms favor just to make it a fair and even acceptable match...

Forget a featureless environment, in a "random" comic battle there is no ring outs, ko's or submissions, it's kill or be killed and the hulk's killing intent far exceeds that of one passive and peaceful Storm..

I said it before and I'll state it again, there is "no way" that Storm could physically disable the hulk, she could either 1)slow him down 2) trap him 3)Flee(seriously) and thats her best bet...

Thor hit him with lightning, he can endure "extreme temperatures" and heals at a rapid rate, so throwing him with her winds would only tick him off...

It takes mere "strength" to topple the hulk or an immense cosmic power...I can hardly see "severe weather" stopping something so powerful and agressive...c'mon be serious...The harder she hits him the more powerful he's going to become and while the hulk can afford a whole heapin of attacks from Storm the same CANNOT be said for her...One hulk blow could kill her instantly...

Hulk can jump Farther up than Storm can fly. (the guy has accidenly jumped to zero gravity space once and almost got freaking stuck)
He can jump Faster than Storm can fly.
I'll admit she could possibly push him back down for a while with an INSANELY powerful wind, but after a few times hulk would simply push through them.
Oh, and in anyfeatureless desert...the ground is made up of hard dirt or clay....hulk smash ground... hulk pick big peice of dirt up.... hulk throw at stupid weather broad.

Storm beating Hulk is like Puck layin the smackdown against Galactus and winning. she would lose. Xavier is the only x-man who would defeat the hulk by f*cking up his mind or shutting it down.

Originally posted by long pig
Hulk can jump Farther up than Storm can fly. (the guy has accidenly jumped to zero gravity space once and almost got freaking stuck)
He can jump Faster than Storm can fly.
I'll admit she could possibly push him back down for a while with an INSANELY powerful wind, but after a few times hulk would simply push through them.
Oh, and in anyfeatureless desert...the ground is made up of hard dirt or clay....hulk smash ground... hulk pick big peice of dirt up.... hulk throw at stupid weather broad.

Everything I read in the Hulk comics (and I read plenty), and
read about him in various guides, show that he can jump only
around 3-4 miles, faaaaaar short of the hundreds of miles
needed to reach "zero gravity" (4 miles is just over 20,000
feet, notable less than the average altitude of a commercial
air-liner). This incident you mentioned is obviously one of those
bs events that happen every now and again with comics (such
as the aforementioned Gambit-Gladiator victory).

And how do you know he can jump faster than Storm can move?
You also seem to forget that Storm wouldn't have to move
much, just a few feet to the right or left (are you now going to
claim that the Hulk can control his jump-path in mid-flight as well?).

And it wouldn't take an "insanely" strong wind to push him
down. In fact, she wouldn't even need to "push him back down",
just slightly to the side is enough. Or she could even use the
winds to push him up-wards high up into the altitude, and
have him fall on his square head, she obviously has resonably
good control of winds if she can control them to keep her afloat.

And I'd love to see the Hulk asking Storm not to attack him
for a few minutes until he digs down into the ground deep
enough to find more solid soil. I can only imagine how deep
he'd have to dig if they were in the desert!

Originally posted by savagerampage
Storm beating Hulk is like Puck layin the smackdown against Galactus and winning. she would lose. Xavier is the only x-man who would defeat the hulk by f*cking up his mind or shutting it down.

Wow! So Hulk down is so damned powerful, that he can dominate
one of the most powerful X-Men with the same ease as Galactus to
Puck? Who knew?!

Please. It really is funny how Superman, Wolverine and Spider-Man
fans are always attacked for exaggerating their hero's strengths
and abilities to beat anyone, but meanwhile Hulk are just the same,
maybe even worse, since everytime their arguements don't work,
they fall back on the old "The madder he gets....blah, blah, blah".

Why can't people accept that Hulk, while physically the strongest
earth super-human, is not unbeatable. Getting hit by several
dozen 500 million-volt, 50,000 degrees farenheit lightning strikes,
is no walk in the park.

Are people that dumb? Seriously?

Why is this thread still here?

Whether Hulk is unbeatable or not (which he isn't) he isn't losing a fight against Storm. What is so hard to understand about this?

"Sweep him up with a cyclone and drop him from Space".

The theories just get worse and worse and worse. Storm fans have to delve so deep into the depths of "What if" that it's ridiculous. That's why there are "What if" comics, to show what would have happened.

Storm cannot put out more power than the Hulk can retaliate with, that's just the way it is. Really. No shh, stop arguing with your monitor, that's the way it is.

Hahahahaha. "Hulk is Marvel's cash cow". Do I really need to get into this with you? Because I can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the X-Men hold that title.

Either way, you've swayed so far off point to even give Storm a chance that it's got stupid.

The forum's decline is almost complete. I'm starting to question if you actually read comics.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Are people that dumb? Seriously?

Why is this thread still here?

...

The forum's decline is almost complete. I'm starting to question if you actually read comics.

This coming from the guy who gave us the "Wolverine Vs. Hulk"
thread.

Glass houses, my good man, glass houses.

I gave you Wolverine Vs Hulk because I wanted to show a rather idiotic comic fan that Wolverine has no chance, after he started talking about Wolverine Vs Hulk in a completely unrelated thread.

You were saying? You know what they say about when you assume.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I gave you Wolverine Vs Hulk because I wanted to show a rather idiotic comic fan that Wolverine has no chance, after he started talking about Wolverine Vs Hulk in a completely unrelated thread.

You started a whole thread just so you can tell another user
"Nyah, nyah, nyah!"?

Real mature.

Couldn't win the arguement by yourself, so you needed back-up?

Not at all.

I created it because he was about to derail a perfectly good thread so I said to him "Come and debate in the thread I created".

Again, you know what they say about assumptions. Can't debate on topic so you need to reply to me about nothing relevent eh?

Real mature, but hey, I'm not the one who believes Storm would beat Hulk. That's probably getting you laughed at.

-AC

"Can't debate on topic so you need to reply to me about nothing
relevent eh?"

Can't debate? I'm not the ass**** who keeps posting wise-ass
sarcastic remarks in various threads, attacking them for "ruining
this Forum"?

If you don't like a thread; if you think a thread is "stupid" and
unworthy of your superior intelligence, then don't post!

Originally posted by King Burger
Can't debate? I'm not the ass**** who keeps posting wise-ass
sarcastic remarks in various threads, attacking them for "ruining
this Forum"?

Insults? Shhh, ya gats ta cheel. Relax man, everything's gonna be alright. People like my wise-ass comments unless you noticed. Even if they didn't, I'm not directly insulting anyone. You have just taken this thread from ridiculous to more than ridiculous. As if your opinion wasn't silly enough, you launch some attack albeit futile, on me. Rather childish don'tcha think buddy?

Originally posted by King Burger
If you don't like a thread; if you think a thread is "stupid" and
unworthy of your superior intelligence, then don't post!

Whoa whoa whoa. Calm down man, breathe. Take a midol, chill.

First off, thanks for saying I have superior intelligence, appreciate it. Secondly, I can do as I wish. If people create stupid threads, I'll say so.

Gahhta praaablem wid dat? No? Good.

Then we can end this.

-AC

"Everything I read in the Hulk comics (and I read plenty), and
read about him in various guides, show that he can jump only
around 3-4 miles, faaaaaar short of the hundreds of miles
needed to reach "zero gravity" (4 miles is just over 20,000
feet, notable less than the average altitude of a commercial
air-liner). This incident you mentioned is obviously one of those
bs events that happen every now and again with comics (such
as the aforementioned Gambit-Gladiator victory)."
Well, actually zero gravity is only 10-12 short miles high....look it up should be in your 9th grade textbook.
You're basing his jumping ability on a hulk who is jumping to travel....this is a hulk going all out...he can jump much farther than 4 miles long.

""And it wouldn't take an "insanely" strong wind to push him
down. In fact, she wouldn't even need to "push him back down",
just slightly to the side is enough. Or she could even use the
winds to push him up-wards high up into the altitude, and
have him fall on his square head, she obviously has resonably
good control of winds if she can control them to keep her afloat.""
maybe, which will only piss hulk off more, what goes up...must come down...simple really.

""And I'd love to see the Hulk asking Storm not to attack him
for a few minutes until he digs down into the ground deep
enough to find more solid soil. I can only imagine how deep
he'd have to dig if they were in the desert!""
Hmm....solid soil is EVERYWHERE in the desert, the whole damn thing is dry mud!

"""Why can't people accept that Hulk, while physically the strongest
earth super-human, is not unbeatable. Getting hit by several
dozen 500 million-volt, 50,000 degrees farenheit lightning strikes,
is no walk in the park."""
Im no hulk fan dude...I hardly ever defend the guy unless a buncha crazed "teamstormers" go around flapping thier cake hole.. oh and btw the voltage isnt what kills you.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Are people that dumb? Seriously?
Storm cannot put out more power than the Hulk can retaliate with, that's just the way it is. Really. No shh, stop arguing with your monitor, that's the way it is.
-AC

How is the Hulk going to reach storm to harm her, or put a halt to her onslaught of devastation? Granted, the Hulk can leap, but storm can fly higher than he can leap. If Storm would simply fly to a height where she would be safe from Hulks reach. She could engage in apocalyptic wheather patterns all day.

Yeah it is a reach, but Storms abilities have never been soley explained in detail without later being contradicted. In extinction agenda, she supposedly has the ability to embrace the essence of the earth which would put her in a state where forces work through her feeding off of her intentions, placing her in a state resembeling jean grey and the phoenix. Other times she is said to have unlimited ability,but her body and mind cannot withstand the energy very long. Then they say again that she has the most powerfull potential, all she has to do is delve deeper into her abilities. This happens alot with the X-men, but i guess without proof. Hulk could take what storm could dish out untill she tired out, but if she could theoretically endure endless strain then the bout would go to her. Hulk is strong, stronger than supes, but mother nature is a force more raw and devastating than the hulk,atleast if the darkest sides of nature could be controlled.

Storm isnt mother nature, Storm is a black chick with (wtf) blue eyes and (wtholyf??) white hair.
Hulk can jump as high as storm can fly.

Exactly. That's the misconception.

She's not some omnipotent natural presense. She can manipulate the weather..........that's all.

She can't beat The Hulk.

-AC

Who said she was mother nature? Hulk can leap further than he can jump. Storm can fly untill the oxygen becomes to thin. I have seen Hulk jump into outer space on one occasion, but that should never be taken seriously, not even in the comic book world. Other than that. I have never seen Hulk jump that high. He couldnt reach superman.

I was just referring to the material we are given. Some have said Storm can be the most devestating mutant where forces possess her being. Man i forget, those mythological Earth spirits she learned about in Africa. Of course her abilities are not powerfull enough to topple the Hulk, but her insinuated abilities are.

If you havent got it, i am just picking through the in consistancy of comic writers.

Storm needs oxygen too, dunno if you picked that up during your reading of these comics.

However, you are (like every Storm supporter) getting into such eventualities. It won't even get to that point. Storm doesn't fight miles away from her opponents. Proof? Hulk has battered her twice, once teamed with Cable.

If it was as easy as fly away, make fog, make lightning, make hurricane, then she might have a shot. It's not though.

Read the thread title, Storm Vs Hulk. Do you not realise how ridiculous this fight is?

-AC