I read them and their all completely implausible. The webbing isn't coming anywhere near Storm. It's certainly not gonna break through the winds.
Read my major post about two or three pages back. It pretty much clarifies how Spidey stands very little chance.
As I have said before it depends on the environment. If its inside a building that Spidey would most likely win. If it is in an open area outside than Spidey is f**ed. He cannot win. He's out of his league in this fight.
what if its in, like, ny? Id give spidey an advantage even there. But if its in a meadow with trees (?) and absolutely no rocks, and they start 1 mile apart, yeah, storm wins. (those were the original starting conditions...!)
but yeah, if its wide open spaces, its storm, if its enclosed in a city of skyscrapers, its close, but spidey, and if its inside, storm has no chance.
If its in New York (and the city is completely empty and Storm doesn't have to worry about property damage costs) then in my opinion Storm would still win. Fighting in New York may SEEM like an advantage for Spidey but really its not. This just makes it much harder for Spidey to survive. Imagine a tornado in New York City. Absolutely chaos. Spidey would be dodging multitudes upon multidudes of debris. The buildings aren't meant to withstand such winds. They'll come crashing down. Fighting in New York would be the worst possible situation for Spidey.
would you just give up already?!?! i'm noy yhr best debater by far but draco said everything i was trying. she can destroy buildings making mobility hard. create tornados that will make him have to dodge all the debris and then use her other powers to take him out. all you can say is that if he gats any webbing on her then she's done. not true. whats he gonna do if he gets webbing on her?? try to make her hit a building?? buildings won't be there due to storms powers. try to throw her against the ground?? can't she will more than likely fly and take him with her. theres no way spidey is winning this and its obvious
Originally posted by Kontraz
Torandoes could cause some problems, but nomore than they would elsewhere... but as for storm's other abilities... wind wont be nearly as much of a problem. Lightning is still the same. Hail would probably be lessened a great deal. Plus spidey has much more "duck and weave" opportunities.
In a meadow. It wouldn't be a problem for Spidey. In flippin Grand Central Ave? Absolutely. Just IMAGINE a tornado or hurricane in New York City. ABSOLUTE CHAOS. Buildings falling, cars flying around, millions of wind-velocity debris to hit Spidey (and he can't avoid them all). Broken glass, trucks, etc. It would be pandemonium for Spidey. "Ducking and weaving" won't simply work. He'd have dodge millions of wind-propelled debris and somehow survive the onslaught of falling buildings. All that under -20 temperature.
I have to agree with Draco. Storm is very capable of doing this. Wind id say would be her most effective weapon in a fight wiv spidey. In her early days when she was less adept wiv her powers she juggled around a couple of Langs Sentinels and then decimated them with lightning.Spideys just outclassed in this match especially if theyre outside. Be it in a city or an open area. Inside then its more debatable and i can see spidey having a much better chance. Although storms powers are restricted inside. She can still generate her own lightning from her body just like that. She can generate flash floods and many other precipitation related weather feats in a matter of seconds. Shes done this on many occassions. For example during the XMens first encounter with Nefaria and his ani men in uncanny xmen she washed them away in seconds and that was in his underground base.
When storm fought Marrow and her fellow morlocks down in the sewers she was held at gunpoint from behind within secondds as the captions also stated she had generated a vortex of wind which slammed the assailant into a wall. That was down in the sewers you cant get much more enclosed than that.
Quite recently in Xmen storm became a gladiator of sorts when she fought for her life and freedom in The Arena. That too was an enclosed space. Storm fought a variety of opponents stronger, more durable and alot faster than her yet despite the enclosed space she was generating powerful winds and other weather effects just like that. That is why she eventually became the champion.
The 90's cartoon of Xmen was fun to watch but its representation of the characters powers, their skills and fighting abilities was badly portrayed in comparison to the comics. Storm in particular seemed to need about an hour to sumon a lightning. If thats whats making you doubt her abilities then forget that. If you're an avid reader of xmen comics you'll know she is far from defenceless in an enclosed space
Originally posted by Draco69
I read them and their all completely implausible. The webbing isn't coming anywhere near Storm. It's certainly not gonna break through the winds.
(PS I KNOW she has done it in the past, but it's definitely NOT her usual way of fighting. And there's a huge difference between hiding in a hurricane and defeating Spider-Man.)
Originally posted by who?-kid
That's what you say. Since when does Storm cover herself completely behind some kind of hurricane whenever she fights someone ? Is that a new tactic of her ?(PS I KNOW she has done it in the past, but it's definitely NOT her usual way of fighting. And there's a huge difference between hiding in a hurricane and defeating Spider-Man.)
You obviously haven't been reading up on Storm lately. I won't even get into CURRENT Storm. Claramont boosted to ridiculous proportions of power. Storm is much more ruthless, more skilled and much more powerful with her power. Hell She can just emit an EMP to shut down his brain.
[QUOTE=3642618]Originally posted by Draco69
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2) The durability to stand up to hail
Normal hail? Sure. Hail the size of baseballs projected by 200 mph winds? Absolutely not.
This is stupid Baseball players get it by 95 to 98 mph fast balls all the time with know more then a brews to show for it now take some one only twice as durable as normal human like cap and you should get the same result.Now take Spider-man durability and thank how much damage that can make to him unless it hits him in the face or the growing come on this guy took a punch from Hulk to the jaw the first time he met him and got right back up(Amazing Spider-man #14).Thank about what you say before you say it.To the tornado in New York thing he can just go under ground they have subways and sewers in NYC it's just like when a tornado is near your house you go in the basement same thing and the tornado is not going to instantly cover and destroy the hole city.If Spider-man sees what is happening he will get safety.I do thank Storm can easily win only if she gets out of reach and freeze the hole city to like -98 degrease.[list]
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Originally posted by Blade Cutter
[QUOTE=3642618]Originally posted by Draco69
[B]2) The durability to stand up to hail
Normal hail? Sure. Hail the size of baseballs projected by 200 mph winds? Absolutely not.
This is stupid Baseball players get it by 95 to 98 mph fast balls all the time with know more then a brews to show for it now take some one only twice as durable as normal human like cap and you should get the same result.Now take Spider-man durability and thank how much damage that can make to him unless it hits him in the face or the growing come on this guy took a punch from Hulk to the jaw the first time he met him and got right back up(Amazing Spider-man #14).Thank about what you say before you say it.To the tornado in New York thing he can just go under ground they have subways and sewers in NYC it's just like when a tornado is near your house you go in the basement same thing and the tornado is not going to instantly cover and destroy the hole city.If Spider-man sees what is happening he will get safety.I do thank Storm can easily win only she gets out of reach and freeze the hole city to like -98 degrease.
200mph hail baseballs? One might not hurt him much. But several hundred pummeling him from all angles? Absolutely. For god's sake, a blade of grass propelled by winds have been shown to go through flippin cars. Spider-Man's durability isn't on the level to withstand such an assault. Bullets can hurt and kill Spidey for goodness' sake.
Hiding underground is not win. Though if I were him, I would do the same thing. I hide my ass until Storm just gets bored.
Originally posted by Draco69
You obviously haven't been reading up on Storm lately. I won't even get into CURRENT Storm. Claramont boosted to ridiculous proportions of power. Storm is much more ruthless, more skilled and much more powerful with her power. Hell She can just emit an EMP to shut down his brain.
Everyone gets stronger it seems. Only those who don't need the upgrades because they are still cool enough without them, stay the same 😉.
Originally posted by Draco69Blades of grass are sharp I can go out side right now and cut my self with one if I was stupid it's like when you get a paper cut.If Storm had destroyed the city she would go down to see if she beat Spider-man and if he was hiding in the sewer he could sneak attack her their will stuff to throw at her(because of all the fallen buildings) and hit her with before she can reacted.
200mph hail baseballs? One might not hurt him much. But several hundred pummeling him from all angles? Absolutely. For god's sake, a blade of grass propelled by winds have been shown to go through flippin cars. Spider-Man's durability isn't on the level to withstand such an assault. Bullets can hurt and kill Spidey for goodness' sake.Hiding underground is not win. Though if I were him, I would do the same thing. I hide my ass until Storm just gets bored.
Originally posted by Blade Cutter
Blades of grass are sharp I can go out side right now and cut my self with one if I was stupid it's like when you get a paper cut.If Storm had destroyed the city she would go down to see if she beat Spider-man and if he was hiding in the sewer he could sneak attack her their will stuff to throw at her(because of all the fallen buildings) and hit her with before she can reacted.
If blades of grass are very sharp at a standstill just imagine what whould happen if it was propelled by high velocity winds?
Storm doesn't need to see anything. She sees the world in terms of energy. She'll just see his electromagnetic aura.
A better question to ask is not if SHE can see HIM. But rather can HE see HER? How can he see her. It's pitch black from the tornado. It's raining and hailing like tomorrow. And Storm would be so high up that she would be a dot. Not to mention she would protect herself with fog and wind shields that would buffer any piece of crap he actually manages throw at her. Her wind shields have stopped bullets for petey's sake.
Originally posted by Blade Cutter
He would not come out until the storm is over unless he got hit in the head before he went under ground and has become stupid.
And when the storm is over, Storm has obviously gotten tired of messing with the bug and left.
Even if he was in the tunnels, cowering like sick child, Storm can still defeat him. Either by lowering the temperature to absymal levels (which would cause the water lines to burst and drown his ass) or striking the ground with lightening. The tunnels are conductive. He'll be fried.